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re: St. George organizers submit petition with signatures
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:38 am to recruitnik
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:38 am to recruitnik
I wonder how St. George residents will respond when people from out of town ask them where they live.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:40 am to Rickety Cricket
First, I'll make sure to thumb my nose and lift my pinky finger. WE FRUM DAT STG YO
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:51 am to recruitnik
quote:Who is that?
LSU fans are following a Bama grad
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:17 am to recruitnik
So glad I don't have to work/associate with most of you people 
. I did lose 5 minutes of my day though.
. I did lose 5 minutes of my day though.Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:19 am to LSUAfro
quote:If you're reading this board that means you ARE associating with the posters on it....
So glad I don't have to work/associate with most of you people
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:20 am to LSURussian
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:10 am to biglego
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Ok, fair enough. So it's simply a matter of taxes, and you don't think you'll see a proportionate benefit.
Is this why LSU Russian is anti-St. George?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:19 am to fightin tigers
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You should send your kids to EBR schools. It is a shining example of what the BR government is capable of.
I see you live in Prairieville. As a parent who had a child named "Student of the Year" at an Ascension school, I can tell you that Ascension was unable to provide the challenging curriculum that my child required. EBRPS could.
If Ascension built a top end Magnet program, they would knock it out of the park. I'm still not sure why they haven't. Maybe because it's not easy to do. The decimation of the EBRPS Magnet Schools will be one of the many negative unintended consequences of St. George.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:26 am to Lsupimp
so EBR Magnet school > Ascension PS?
And what about those who can't get into the magnet program? frick them, right?
And what about those who can't get into the magnet program? frick them, right?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:30 am to Lsupimp
The "neighborhood school" approach, which I championed for years, is NOT the correct one, IF YOU LIVE IN A GHETTO. There has to be a way to get the good, deserving kids out of the impossible environment of their ghetto peers and into a safe learning environment. As much as this offends sensibilities, when you are dealing with the kids EBRPS has to deal with, the best approach may be to adopt a wider two-tiered approach.
Further warehouse the incorrigibles/shitheads who screw things up for their classmates, and let the good kids who want to learn get on a bus and go to a decent school. There are so many great students coming out of the worst neighborhoods, and those are the kids that truly need some kind of opportunity. EBRPS has actually addressed their needs pretty well with the magnet/gifted programs. And they are left with thousands of other kids who are just academically hopeless and then condemned for not magically transforming them.
Further warehouse the incorrigibles/shitheads who screw things up for their classmates, and let the good kids who want to learn get on a bus and go to a decent school. There are so many great students coming out of the worst neighborhoods, and those are the kids that truly need some kind of opportunity. EBRPS has actually addressed their needs pretty well with the magnet/gifted programs. And they are left with thousands of other kids who are just academically hopeless and then condemned for not magically transforming them.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:33 am to ell_13
quote:And what about the 6,200 magnet students who live in SG but go to schools in Baton Rouge and who will be forced to either leave their schools or their parents must move into Baton Rouge?
And what about those who can't get into the magnet program? frick them, right?
frick them, right?
That knife cuts both ways.....
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:43 am to LSURussian
I don't have a dog in this fight, Russian. I'm on the sidelines watching this spectacle because that's all it really is. I just wanted to point out that he seems to be a special case where he was fortunate enough to get his kid in a magnet school, which I agree is the way to go in EBR. But there are thousands of students who don't get that type of education in EBR.
I suppose the argument that you would hear in rebuttal to that is that SG schools would be just as good as EBR magnet. But that's no guarantee and who knows when, if ever, those schools would reach that point. Like you've said, this vote doesn't even create a school district.
I suppose the argument that you would hear in rebuttal to that is that SG schools would be just as good as EBR magnet. But that's no guarantee and who knows when, if ever, those schools would reach that point. Like you've said, this vote doesn't even create a school district.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:48 am to Lsupimp
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Lsupimp
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:48 am to ell_13
quote:Only a fool would believe that. And it completely ignores the schools in SG have a total seating capacity of approximately half the number of students who live in what would be the new SG district, and that excludes any private school transfers back into the public school system.
I suppose the argument that you would hear in rebuttal to that is that SG schools would be just as good as EBR magnet.
So immediately upon the new district being formed, half the students would not have a place to sit in a classroom nor are there enough classrooms to put new teachers into.
But no new taxes would be needed to fund any school expansions.
You don't have a dog in this fight and you don't have much knowledge of the overall situation.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:53 am to LSURussian
More taxes would definitely be needed, but that isn't always a bad thing.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:54 am to LSURussian
quote:Yes. I do. I'm paying attention to it all because I have a 1yo. And I'm not sure where we'll be living in 5 years. Could be in Zachary. Could be in Central. Could still be here. We haven't decided on public or private. So this is interesting to me.
You don't have a dog in this fight and you don't have much knowledge of the overall situation.
quote:You said it yourself. This vote doesn't create the district. Things may change between now and then (if this ever happens).
it completely ignores the schools in SG have a total seating capacity of approximately half the number of students who live in what would be the new SG district, and that excludes any private school transfers back into the public school system.
So immediately upon the new district being formed, half the students would not have a place to sit in a classroom nor are there enough classrooms to put new teachers into.
quote:
But no new taxes would be needed to fund any school expansions
quote:
Only a fool would believe that.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:57 am to ell_13
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And what about those who can't get into the magnet program? frick them, right?
That is the greatest ILLOGIC of the whole issue. My ears hear that exactly like yours here the illogical "you are a racist" arguments from the worst EBRP idiots. It's illogical, unfair and not true.
Destroying the Magnet program and the gifted programs does NOTHING to improve education in our area. Under ANY scenario they need to be preserved.They are literally the best local resource that Baton Rouge has, on a societal/cultural/opportunity level-even more important than private schools, because they provide educational opportunities to those who otherwise would have no chance at a decent education.
The real issue here-the one nobody wants to touch because of racial implications-is how do we logically SEPARATE good kids from the kids who make the education of bad kids impossible. We have to address not only the needs of good middle class kids in Shenandoah but also good kids living in near-impossible situations off Winbourne street.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:57 am to Lsupimp
We have to give the "smart kids" a better option with magnet/gifted options. From wherever they live in Baton Rouge.
We have to give the "good kids" an option with decent and safe neighborhood-type schools.From wherever they live in Baton Rouge.
And we need to give the "thug-kids" a little reality-check and BUS them to a place with guards and metal detectors and pseudo- wardens.From wherever they live in Baton Rouge.
So I propose we establish a Three-tier approach (based largely on classroom behavior) devote more resources to establishing MORE dedicated magnet/gifted schools to meet the demand. Every year 3/4 more. St. George won't be able to do that. And realize that because of the reality of our racial/economic demographics, our area will ALWAYS have to deal with a HUGE AMOUNT of failure and social pathology. And because of that, we have to put those kids SOMEWHERE, so why not together, so they can enjoy being failed away from all the kids who want to achieve, who just have the misfortune of growing up in a shitty neighborhood. And quit coddling the thugs.
I do not want to abandon the good kids from the bad neighborhoods by decimating the EBRPSS. They study in my kitchen every week and trust me, and they come from near-impossible situations, and are overcoming tremendous odds.
We have to give the "good kids" an option with decent and safe neighborhood-type schools.From wherever they live in Baton Rouge.
And we need to give the "thug-kids" a little reality-check and BUS them to a place with guards and metal detectors and pseudo- wardens.From wherever they live in Baton Rouge.
So I propose we establish a Three-tier approach (based largely on classroom behavior) devote more resources to establishing MORE dedicated magnet/gifted schools to meet the demand. Every year 3/4 more. St. George won't be able to do that. And realize that because of the reality of our racial/economic demographics, our area will ALWAYS have to deal with a HUGE AMOUNT of failure and social pathology. And because of that, we have to put those kids SOMEWHERE, so why not together, so they can enjoy being failed away from all the kids who want to achieve, who just have the misfortune of growing up in a shitty neighborhood. And quit coddling the thugs.
I do not want to abandon the good kids from the bad neighborhoods by decimating the EBRPSS. They study in my kitchen every week and trust me, and they come from near-impossible situations, and are overcoming tremendous odds.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:00 am to Lsupimp
quote:Where did I suggest destroying them? I even said they were the way to go because....
Destroying the Magnet program and the gifted programs does NOTHING to improve education in our area. Under ANY scenario they need to be preserved.
quote:Which leads me to point out... "no chance at a decent education." Why would I, as a decent parent, subject my child to this?
they provide educational opportunities to those who otherwise would have no chance at a decent education.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:01 am to Lsupimp
My question is, why is all of this bussing necessary? Why can't the kids just go to whatever school is in their neighborhood? If the EBR public schools are such good schools, then they should be the same quality across the board, and it shouldn't matter which school they attend.
Of course, we know that isn't the case.
Of course, we know that isn't the case.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:06 am
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