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re: SPLC: Confederate monument relocation talks should start fresh
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:32 pm to Tiger Prawn
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:32 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:Katrina washed away Beauvoir. Or do you mean the recreation of Beauvoir.
Why not just send them to Beauvoir in Biloxi
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:35 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
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These statues celebrate and hold in high regard, traitorous renegades of a failed ideology from 150 years ago. That ideology was that their individual prosperity was reliant upon the enslavement of a people that were perceived as less than human, because of the color of their skin.
There is no shortage of statues of soldiers from the union army that "freed the slaves" yet in their own northern states the slaves werent freed until after the civil war ended.
Quite the interesting paradox.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:37 pm to TigerWise
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If you don’t live in the city your opinion doesn’t matter.
I see family as a thing to remember and care for. Its a shame people like you do not.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:37 pm to ChineseBandit66
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 6:07 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:38 pm to LSUcajun77
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They should crumble the statues and let the whining on both sides come to an end.
The people existed, history happened, be done with it.
No bueno comrade. The people of the left would in fact win if this occurred. It would create more division. This statue issue is a Microcosm of the greater US and A.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:that is the whole laughable thing about this. No one in this day and age thinks slavery was a good thing. Yet the liberals still like to portray white people are people who wish there was still slavery. They are basically doing the same thing the north did to the south. We dont want you to have slaves all the while keeping their own slave. Because you know why? It wasnt about slavery. It was about control.
There is no shortage of statues of soldiers from the union army that "freed the slaves" yet in their own northern states the slaves werent freed until after the civil war ended.
Quite the interesting paradox.
Any educated person could see that the use of human labor would be phased out because machinery did the job way more efficiently. This was about the big government Northern states wanted to control the state government southern states. This is the turning point of how out Country came down this Big Government state with Daddy down in DC.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:05 pm to NYNolaguy1
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in their own northern states the slaves werent freed until after the civil war ended
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Quite the interesting paradox.
Not a paradox at all, regardless of so many southern folks "whatabout" argument that you pose, almost all the truly northern union states had given up slavery completely by the start of the war, but some more geographically south still did have slaves...in the 100,000's. However, this was only allowed because Lincoln and the U.S. government agreed that complete and immediate emancipation would be devastating to their economies and agreed to gradual emancipation programs, the same program many of the more northern states had already been enacting for over 100 years before the war to be completely slave free. Yes, some of these programs lasted beyond the war but they were in place and legally required. The same consideration was given to the southern states after Lee surrendered. But no one from the Union was killing Americans for the right to keep slaves is a big difference. Funny how you folks that make that argument leave out those little tidbits.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:05 pm to ChineseBandit66
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"People whose families continue to feel the legacy of slavery and white supremacy are more entitled than anyone else when it comes to deciding the fate of these monuments..."
They don't "feel the legacy of slavery or white supremacy"; they feel the weight of their own poor decisions in this lifetime. Making policy decisions based on what thin-skinned, weak-minded idiots 'feel' could ruin this country.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:13 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
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The same consideration was given to the southern states after Lee surrendered.
At the blade of a bayonet through Reconstruction.
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But no one from the Union was killing Americans for the right to keep slaves is a big difference.
They were defending their slave owning homes from the insurrectionist southerners. They did it first because Lincoln told them to, and second because they were conscripted.
For all they knew the slave owners in the Union thought they would be there when they returned.
Does that make them better or worse than the slave owning Southerners?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:14 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
quote:do you know how i know you are a liar?
almost all the truly northern union states had given up slavery completely by the start of the war
quote:give ma a break with this. I love how "you people" still preach that the War was about slavery. see my previous post. It was all about control. Slavery was just used as a political and economical tool to cripple the south, and it worked.
But no one from the Union was killing Americans for the right to keep slaves is a big difference.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
I bet he believe all plantations were like the show Roots.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:27 pm to CarRamrod
So much nonsense in one post!
False! There are more than you think.
Besides the fact that your grammar usage is painful to read, you are again wrong about this. Those that celebrate the memory of people that fought and killed to protect slavery are suspect in their motives, that is why they should come down.
You seem to be indicating no liberals are white or all liberals of people of color...your motives deserve questioning sir!
I already addressed this in a previous post, or perhaps you just lack reading comprehension which is possible.
If you want to believe this revisionist, white-washed nonsense you will only be living in a cloud of your own delusion.
Then how would you know?
HAHAAAA...this was common knowledge in the 1860's huh? Dem danged ole robots comin to take aways our farmin jobs!
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that is the whole laughable thing about this. No one in this day and age thinks slavery was a good thing.
False! There are more than you think.
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Yet the liberals still like to portray white people are people who wish there was still slavery
Besides the fact that your grammar usage is painful to read, you are again wrong about this. Those that celebrate the memory of people that fought and killed to protect slavery are suspect in their motives, that is why they should come down.
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liberals still like to portray white people
You seem to be indicating no liberals are white or all liberals of people of color...your motives deserve questioning sir!
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basically doing the same thing the north did to the south. We dont want you to have slaves all the while keeping their own slave
I already addressed this in a previous post, or perhaps you just lack reading comprehension which is possible.
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It wasnt about slavery. It was about control.
If you want to believe this revisionist, white-washed nonsense you will only be living in a cloud of your own delusion.
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Any educated person could see
Then how would you know?
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the use of human labor would be phased out because machinery did the job way more efficiently
HAHAAAA...this was common knowledge in the 1860's huh? Dem danged ole robots comin to take aways our farmin jobs!
quote:So delusional! Only the southern states rights to own slaves because they were to dense in the brain to make the right decision.
This was about the big government Northern states wanted to control the state government southern states.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:36 pm to CarRamrod
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do you know how i know you are a liar?
Know how I know you lack the basic ability to do a google search? This table shows amount of slaves in the non-confederate states through every national census up to 1860. Holy cow! Look at all those zero's next to most of the states! How the heck did that happen?
I will no longer address your nonsense about control, that is baseless hyperbole that may help to convince you that your belief is just. It is only an illusion.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:37 pm to CarRamrod
Wow! They were country clubs I am sure 
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:39 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
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Besides the fact that your grammar usage is painful to read
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Only the southern states rights to own slaves because they were to dense in the brain to make the right decision.
Who here can spot the independent clause?
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:44 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
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Holy cow! Look at all those zero's next to most of the states! How the heck did that happen?
In most numerical systems, 451,021 slaves is a lot bigger than 0.
Now I ask, the slave owners that fought the south to protect their homes (and slaves) from the south- does that make them better or worse than the slave owners of the south?
Yet there are still statues of them too all across 6 states in your chart. Do they need to be torn down too?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:45 pm to ChineseBandit66
the SPLC is a horrible horrible organization and I'm ashamed of being from Montgomery in part because of them
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:47 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
416,000 people seems like a freaking lot for 1850 to make the point you are trying to make
the exact numbers are something we can calculate but that's about 2% of the total population of the country at that time.
That percentage actually went up to from 1850 to 1860. Your point is dubious at best.
the exact numbers are something we can calculate but that's about 2% of the total population of the country at that time.
That percentage actually went up to from 1850 to 1860. Your point is dubious at best.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:40 pm to LeauxCountryTigah
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You seem to be indicating no liberals are white or all liberals of people of color...your motives deserve questioning sir!
No, most liberals are white people that suffer from white guilt. They think minorities are too stupid to function without a white liberal guiding them. It's actually sad and extremely racist.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The same consideration was given to the southern states after Lee surrendered.
At the blade of a bayonet through Reconstruction.
That is what happens when you lose homey
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