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re: Spinoff thread: What questions do you have about 9/11?

Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:56 am to
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:56 am to
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The other thread has already been hijacked.


Thanks to your dumb arse.

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There are so many questions about 9/11, just interested in knowing what yours are?


Why are you such a moron on the subject?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:01 am to
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nobody was taken by surprise. The information to stop this was there but just scattered among multiple agencies that were not sharing with each other.

Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
What are the odds of the entire military, entire defense system, entire government, and those airlines, all falling simultaneously incompetent?
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:04 am to
So if it is completely implausible that "the greatest and most well-funded military and defense system in the history of man was simply taken by surprise that day", wouldn't that implicate some top military commanders in Lucky Larry's insurance fraud scheme?

What was their motivation? A cut of the insurance settlement billions? Zionist sympathizers? Boredom because it had been ten years since the last war?
Posted by Bengal96
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:05 am to
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What are the odds of the entire military, entire defense system, entire government, and those airlines, all falling simultaneously incompetent?


I have asked that question ad nauseum for years and have never been given an answer as to why NORAD happened to take a dump that day, but a Cessna can't get off course in DFW for 30 seconds without two F-16's escorting him back on course
Posted by Bengal96
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:07 am to
And amid all of this, everyone still forgets we went into Iraq based on a complete documented lie about weapons of mass destruction and GWB and the rest of them continue to live their happy asses rich and care free.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:08 am to
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entire military, entire defense system


Not really incompetent. By the time they even knew what was going on, 2 planes had crashed into their targets. Within minutes after that, the Pentagon got hit.

And if you think Flight 93 was shot down, well, they kind of did their job, no?

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entire government


The intelligence agencies were highly incompetent. Pretty believable as everybody from Fidel Castro to Aldrich Ames could tell you.

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those airlines


Once again, not really incompetent. The terrorists brought legal equipment onboard and then just played what basically amounts to an elaborate game of Terrorist Poker to hold the planes long enough to achieve their objectives.

Seems pretty believable so far to me. You might have a more highly developed sense of national pride than me (ironically) if you're trying to say that the United States government is essentially all knowing and all powerful.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:11 am to
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You would expect a plane to enter a steel structured building intact, and only after it has entered the building (intact) does it explode?


Ever heard of momentum? You think the plane should have hit and fallen to the ground?

How long after the moment of impact was the explosion? Less than a second? I guess it should have happened the moment the nose came into contact the building?

What exactly is your conspiracy theory? Did a plane hit the tower in that video or not?
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:14 am to
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What exactly is your conspiracy theory?


This is what I'm waiting on.

Don't be scared...we're anonymous here. Let that freak flag fly!
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:15 am to
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In a few sentences, describe what you feel happened.
The Petro Dollar was being threatened in the ME. In addition several countries refused to comply with the international banking cabal.
On top of that trillions in natural resources were on the table - from poppies to pipelines to untapped natural resources.

9/11 provided a convenient excuse to invade and control the area for the profiteers.

Who or how 9/11 was pulled off, we'll probably never know. But find out who is profiting over there and you'll probably have your answer.

It's about money. It's ALWAYS about money.

ETA: And this isn't even taking into consideration the addition of the military industrial complex and its profiteering.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 1:20 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:17 am to
I guess a plane melted into the building...exactly where explosive charges were set to bring down the tower

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:23 am to
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What are the odds of the entire military, entire defense system, entire government, and those airlines, all falling simultaneously incompetent?



I have asked that question ad nauseum for years and have never been given an answer as to why NORAD happened to take a dump that day, but a Cessna can't get off course in DFW for 30 seconds without two F-16's escorting him back on course

Everyone knows that professional golfers pose a much greater threat to this country than a band of terrorists.
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:26 am to
Is the International Banking Cabal involved in illegal opium cultivation, processing and distribution? If so, wouldn't they be more profitable if they legalized and controlled the market price with artificial scarcity, like DeBeers and diamonds? Do you actually consider a pipeline to be a natural resource? Of the trillions of dollars of natural resources in Afghanistan what is the appropriate value of minerals extracted since 9/11?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:32 am to
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You would expect a plane to enter a steel structured building intact, and only after it has entered the building (intact) does it explode?



Ever heard of momentum? You think the plane should have hit and fallen to the ground?


No, I expect a plane traveling 500 mph ramming into a steel structured building to suffer extreme damage beginning with impact.

These were "special" planes, though, right? Planes that travel 500 mph, ram into steel structured buildings, and remain completely and entirely intact - not only upon impact, but remain completely intact as the entirety of the plane cuts completely through the building like it was butter.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:39 am to
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Is the International Banking Cabal involved in illegal opium cultivation, processing and distribution?
Perhaps factions within?

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If so, wouldn't they be more profitable if they legalized and controlled the market price with artificial scarcity, like DeBeers and diamonds?
And pay taxes and share in the revenue? You're kidding, right? And why would it be necessary to legalize it in order to control the market price?

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Of the trillions of dollars of natural resources in Afghanistan what is the appropriate value of minerals extracted since 9/11?

Don't know, but I believe it's something the media should be keeping track of. Don't you?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:47 am to
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These were "special" planes, though, right? Planes that travel 500 mph, ram into steel structured buildings, and remain completely and entirely intact - not only upon impact, but remain completely intact as the entirety of the plane cuts completely through the building like it was butter.


You still don't understand momentum. The steel beams did cut through the plane like butter. Does that video show something I can't see? You say the plane remains intact but I can't see the nose when the tail is entering the building...can you?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:49 am to
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These were "special" planes, though, right? Planes that travel 500 mph, ram into steel structured buildings, and remain completely and entirely intact - not only upon impact, but remain completely intact as the entirety of the plane cuts completely through the building like it was butter.



You still don't understand momentum.
I guess not. I would expect a plane that rams into a building would suffer some sort of damage.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 1:57 am to
They suffered enormous amounts of damage. They fricking exploded. They found landing gear and fuselage parts blocks away. What are you talking about?

ETA: Do you not think that the momentum of a plane travelling 500 mph would carry it into the building a little bit? It's hitting a steel skeleton, but also glass, insulation, etc. There's plenty for it to plow through. It's not like it's hitting a granite cliff
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 2:07 am
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 2:01 am to
I just watched a youtube video ( LINK) claiming the second plane was a military drone. Makes sense. My only question is what did they do with the real plane and all the passengers who haven't been seen since that morning? Are they on an island somewhere living it up with all of the passengers from MH370?
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 2:03 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 2:07 am to
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They suffered enormous amounts of damage.
When? All parts of the plane entered the building completely intact....and unscratched. Obviously, I don't understand momentum, but shouldn't a plane begin to suffer damage on impact?

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They fricking exploded.
Yeah, interesting that they decided to explode after completely entering the building. The steel structure they cut through didn't cause them to explode. What was different once they got inside?

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They found landing gear and fuselage parts blocks away.
Don't forget the pristine paper passport.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 2:09 am to
I'm thinking you believe that the outside of a skyscraper is some impenetrable fortress that is going to cause a massive jetliner to immediately disentigrate, without entering the building at all


They did explode on impact. Their speed and momentum simply carried that through the building. Instead of the automatic "BOOM!!!" that you think should happen. Like what occurs in Cartoon Network shows. Physics, my friend
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 2:12 am
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