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Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:58 pm to TDTOM
Question:
Do they make electric vehicle chargers that just pull off Solar? Say I bought an EV, could I install a very modest solar panel on the side of my driveway and charge my car with it?
Of course I'd have the regular charger as backup, but I'd be curious about this. Could add to the ROI of an EV that one just uses for daily commute...also could be used to charge my golf cart!
Do they make electric vehicle chargers that just pull off Solar? Say I bought an EV, could I install a very modest solar panel on the side of my driveway and charge my car with it?
Of course I'd have the regular charger as backup, but I'd be curious about this. Could add to the ROI of an EV that one just uses for daily commute...also could be used to charge my golf cart!
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:05 pm to Gus007
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Maybe not but there are many salesmen who aren't honest about their benefits. I've seen reports locally (Knoxville, TN) that Salesmen/contractors have been dishonest in their sales pitch. Same in Atlanta and Florida.
Absolutely. People need to do their research and find a good reputable company. The shite I’ve heard in validation calls at times is infuriating. That’s why people like me develop processes and audits to catch as many shite heads as we can. I’m doing it to protect the investors but I like that it can protect consumers too.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:06 pm to Deplorableinohio
quote:How do you think CF comes into play? How much energy is a roof without solar panels generating? Zero, or negative in a way since we typically expend more energy removing the heat energy that enters the structure via the roof. CF could be 1% and it could be worth it depending on the cost. So back to your original request that we "do the math" on your buddy's system:
Actually, with 30 years experience in energy, nuclear, fossil fuels, hydro, and renewables, I do. 23% capacity factor for solar, 30% for wind.
$140/mo payments for 15 years
$30/mo saved on bill
Equals
Your buddy got fricked on either cost, equipment, installation, or something. ~70 years to break even is absolutely not typical, which you should know and you should feel like a damned fool coming in here talking this nonsense.
quote:We need a lot of things. 30 years experience and you still don't know the valid use cases for different energy generation methods? Sad.
You need baseload generation. Not intermittent renewables.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:06 pm to TDTOM
quote:meh. People are spouting downright lies and giving advice based on that bullshite. I’m not sorry if that hurt your feelings. Maybe try a safe space.
No clue whether you are right or wrong, but you are one condescending prick.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:06 pm to CatfishJohn
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Do they make electric vehicle chargers that just pull off Solar? Say I bought an EV, could I install a very modest solar panel on the side of my driveway and charge my car with it?
I don't know if they currently make one, but in theory, yes, you could, but I don't think it would be very small or how much it would actually charge per hour.
The one thing people miss with solar is the fact that you actually have to power your inverters. Solar provides a DC voltage. It has to be inverted to an AC volage for your house to use. So, no solar panels alone will not allow you to live off the grid or power, basically, anything.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:08 pm to CatfishJohn
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Do they make electric vehicle chargers that just pull off Solar? Say I bought an EV, could I install a very modest solar panel on the side of my driveway and charge my car with it?
Yeah there are a couple. Solaredge and Enphase both have charger integration and are testing EV back feed. I have a beta Enphase back feed unit I’ve been trying out and it’s pretty sweet.
A modest solar panel won’t do anything. You need a significant array to do any real charging beyond trickle charging a 12v battery.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:12 pm to MisslePig
Using traditional logic they don't make any sense. However, when you consider the current political climate where the US seems hell bent on destroying it's ability to generate power while forcing everyone onto the already overtaxed grid to drive, cook and generate heat (phasing out natural gas), then anyone with a brain can see that there will be brown and blackouts coming very soon.
Getting as many backup forms of power as one can afford makes total sense. I got a 60kw Lipo4 battery bank, 25kw of panels and 4 inverters and a couple dc mini splits for heating/cooling from Signature Solar for what I thought (after shopping around quite a bit) was a reasonable price. I'm going keep riding the grid as long as possible and hope I never have to fully transition to solar, but will be prepared for any eventuality.
Getting as many backup forms of power as one can afford makes total sense. I got a 60kw Lipo4 battery bank, 25kw of panels and 4 inverters and a couple dc mini splits for heating/cooling from Signature Solar for what I thought (after shopping around quite a bit) was a reasonable price. I'm going keep riding the grid as long as possible and hope I never have to fully transition to solar, but will be prepared for any eventuality.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:12 pm to billjamin
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I don’t have it on my house in Houston because I haven’t found the right local installer who I trust yet and haven’t been offered the right deal.
lol hold up. You got shite for free and are selling shite to people on here you won’t put on your other place because it’s not free.
And you wonder why people think you are a scam artist?
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:16 pm to MisslePig
Friend of mine has some on his house boat, and that takes care of what he needs. I think he only spent a few hundred bucks though, not thousands. Solar panels can be beneficial depending what you are using the energy for, but most importantly, if you live where you get plenty of year round sunlight.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:18 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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when you consider the current political climate where the US seems hell bent on destroying it's ability to generate power while forcing everyone onto the already overtaxed grid to drive, cook and generate heat (phasing out natural gas), then anyone with a brain can see that there will be brown and blackouts coming very soon.
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:19 pm to dgnx6
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I don’t have it on my house in Houston because I haven’t found the right local installer who I trust yet and haven’t been offered the right deal.
lol hold up. You got shite for free and are selling shite to people on here you won’t put on your other place because it’s not free.
And you wonder why people think you are a scam artist?
All of this. Every bit.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:23 pm to dgnx6
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lol hold up. You got shite for free and are selling shite to people on here you won’t put on your other place because it’s not free. And you wonder why people think you are a scam artist?
Lol I’m not selling anyone on anything. Post where I said anything other than people should look into it and not make blanket assumptions.
Yes I get free shite because I’m in the industry. Shocking.
Let me make it clear once again. I don't give a frick what any of you do. Just try to be informed and know the real information rather than an absolutist ignorant prick.
Eta your deflection and lack of ability to argue anything on the merits is noted. You guys are fricking hilarious. If you want to stay ignorant I’m happy to let you stay that way just stop posting false shite.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:32 pm to Billy Blanks
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Billy Blanks
Dickriding someone’s else’s stupid attempt at a gotcha because you can’t come up with anything of value to post. Sad really.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:39 pm to Korkstand
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I really want to be wrong. Can you show me where I am?
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:40 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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Using traditional logic they don't make any sense.
How so?
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However, when you consider the current political climate where the US seems hell bent on destroying it's ability to generate power while forcing everyone onto the already overtaxed grid to drive, cook and generate heat (phasing out natural gas), then anyone with a brain can see that there will be brown and blackouts coming very soon.
I won't get into a political debate, but a blanket statement, like "the overtaxed grid" is just a false narrative. There are plenty of places in the US that have the equipment and capacity to support large a EV charging society, not a total, but large. South Louisiana is actually well equipped.
Sure, some places will struggle, i.e., California. But their government and utility companies made choices to install lower capacity items or not allow generation to be built. When people have residential solar, it actually helps the grid by taking that demand off of it.
With combos of residential solar, off-peak EV charging, and smart appliances, the change won't be as drastic in many areas.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:41 pm to billjamin
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Eta your deflection and lack of ability to argue anything on the merits is noted. You guys are fricking hilarious. If you want to stay ignorant I’m happy to let you stay that way just stop posting false shite.
I'm not posting false shite.
Check with a mortgage lender. They will say the same stuff I have been.
There are many lenders who will not allow solar panels to be included in the value of the home. Of those who do, they will need comparable sales within a short time frame/distance/style WITH panels. That's why many appraisers give them zero value and when they do, it's very little value. Sub 6-7k. Their cost is 40-70k generally on a home.
That lien must be paid if and when the owner goes to sell the home. Plans change and you're not staying in the home for 20+ years? Too bad. Your massive equity gain over the years just got wiped out by the solar panel loan.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:50 pm to Billy Blanks
Solar Company Scams and Equipment Doesn't Work
Bet this family wishes they never got involved in this.
Bet this family wishes they never got involved in this.
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:58 pm to Billy Blanks
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There are many lenders who will not allow solar panels to be included in the value of the home.
Thats almost exclusively for TPO solar.
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Sub 6-7k. Their cost is 40-70k generally on a home.
Except the data disagrees with you and shows a $9K bump on an average 225K house. You're also comparing system cost in the upper bounds to below average value to try and make a point. I'm honestly not sure if you don't know or if it's intentional at this point. Like earlier when you tried to compare that average valeu to a 60k system. 60K is a big arse system, that ain't even fitting on a 224k house.
You may be presenting your unique experience with this, and thats fine. Just qualify it as such. The gross overarching statements are ridiculous and i'm shocked that so many of you can't see it.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:02 pm to Billy Blanks
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Bet this family wishes they never got involved in this.
That family got took by a shitty company. Thats fricked up and it's why I jump in these threads to give legitimate advise to people. I've had 10-15 people from here email or call me about solar info. I can't sell them anything because it's not what I do, but i can tell them some people to avoid if I know the area, tell them what equipment is good vs shite, etc. I'm happy to help them and really don't GAF if they buy it or not. It has no impact on me.
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