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Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:09 pm to sabes que
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And if they don’t?
What has happened since the beginning of humanity?
Utopianism is dumb. Most harm to this world has been done under the push for utopia.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Bro, even the Neanderthals cared for the sick and it is not an “archaic tribal alliance “, it’s basic “human” decency. Caring for those that can’t care for themselves doesn’t dumb down anything.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Lots of really bad things that we are fortunately going away from
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:10 pm to sabes que
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Bro, even the Neanderthals cared for the sick
No one said otherwise. Most of the time, it was family.
You clearly don't understand individualism.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
And yes way too many things are forced. People put in cages for smoking a plant, an adult selling themself for sex, etc etc. But forcing society to help an elderly person that can’t work is not bad.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:18 pm to sabes que
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. But forcing society to help an elderly person that can’t work is not bad.
If we were just supporting elderly, most wouldn't care too much.
But the more you do, the more dependent they will be. You just cannot understand that.
That's how you destroy resources, money, initiative...
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:19 pm to sabes que
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But forcing society to help an elderly person that can’t work is not bad.
I really don’t think it would have to be forced in this scenario. Your Neanderthal example seems to show this.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The whole point of society is largely to thwart natural selection. The byproducts of this paradigm lead to unequal distributions of labor and financial outcomes by valuing different genetic traits than in the state of nature. This is something people of intelligence in middle school understand.
And women don’t like that at all
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:23 pm to sabes que
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Lots of really bad things that we are fortunately going away from
Including collectivism, which is the primary reason for mass violence.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:23 pm to High C
I doubt Neanderthals had the societal structure to mandate such a thing. But they still showed it in some cases(probably not all). We should be better than them.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:25 pm to sabes que
quote:Well, that isn’t the issue here.
But forcing society to help an elderly person that can’t work is not bad.
You keep using the elderly as the sole reason.
You are also forcing me to pay for the lifestyles of millions of people who have multitudes of children they can’t afford, live lifestyles which contribute nothing to the collective, and give nothing back, all while I am saving and putting off children because I can’t afford it.
Stop using the worst case scenarios while avoiding the biggest issues involved with welfare.
All while those on welfare live lavish lives compared to the rest of the “global collective”.
You incentivize this.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:26 pm to sabes que
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I doubt Neanderthals had the societal structure to mandate such a thing
Then why did you use them as an example of how collective they were?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:28 pm to sabes que
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Is it really? There was a thread I was posting in yesterday where a guy said “blackies commit all the crime”. So please spare me
Now you're just lying. I read that thread. The poster accurately stated that murders in this country are disproportionately committed by black people. His tone was off-putting but hus statement was not false.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Because it showed even primitive beings cared for people that couldn’t contribute. It wasn’t just,” Darwin, every man for himself” as you seem to support.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:29 pm to joebauers
We’re so far up the food chain, with no predators and no environmental threats* for 99.999% of the human population, that natural selection doesn’t apply in the same way it applies to gazelles.
The 2 traits I can think of offhand that increase odds of success in the modern world are logical and social intelligence. For a very small percentage of the population, athletic ability is a factor.
*Cold would be an environmental threat, but we’ve negated that artificially.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:29 pm to supadave3
Lying? Lol that’s exactly what he said
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:30 pm to sabes que
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Because it showed even primitive beings cared for people that couldn’t contribute
You're assuming people who shun collectivism don't care.
I help people, people have helped me. Cooperation and voluntarism are underrated.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:32 pm to sabes que
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Is it really? There was a thread I was posting in yesterday where a guy said “blackies commit all the crime”. So please spare me
Someone else being a bigot doesn’t mean you aren’t one as well. You clearly are.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 1:34 pm to sabes que
quote:There is a massive difference between “couldn’t” contribute and “won’t” contribute.
Because it showed even primitive beings cared for people that couldn’t contribute.
What do you think the Neanderthals did with tribal members who wouldn’t contribute and were merely a drain on resources?
The “elderly and infirm” aren’t the ones who will bring about “Idiocracy”.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 1:38 pm
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