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re: So how desperate are the car dealers to sell cars?

Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:24 pm to
I bought a Mazda 6 Grand Touring on 3/30. I got $5500 off of sticker OTD. Used USAA car buying service to get dealers to contact me. Basically had them beating each other's best offers until one came in on a price I thought was fair. They also gave me a good deal on my trade in, also 10 yrs old. I'm very happy with the price I paid.
Posted by Dixierebel
Alexandria, La
Member since Dec 2016
534 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:25 pm to
Why would you buy a car by a monthly payment or # payments? That is the worst way. You buy a car by Price only. Go to Credit union for financing.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

should have some owner-loyalty perks


LOL. Be sure to post a pic of the sweet t-shirt those perks get you.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37938 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Why would you buy a car by a monthly payment or # payments? That is the worst way. You buy a car by Price only. Go to Credit union for financing.


Lol I think this post was made sarcastically...
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:27 pm to
They aren't there yet. Wait a month or two, demand is going to plummet
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37938 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:31 pm to
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My 2 cents, roll with it until it dies or major issue comes up. But that’s me, I am a simple and cheap guy


I'm with you. I reallllly have enjoyed not having a car note. Having one again eventually is an inevitability, but I'm probably going to keep kicking the can down the road a little longer.

I wanted to use this thread to try to gauge how anxious dealers are to move cars, and it looks like they still aren't just handing them over for next to nothing...
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:34 pm to
My advice:
Do your research BEFORE you step foot on the lot.
Know what you want to pay beforehand.
Know what your trade-in is worth.
Have your paperwork on registration, title in order.
Having your financing with the bank in place.
Now, you're ready. Now, that you're prepared, at this point you can call the dealer, discuss what you're needs are with a salesman, YOUR price, lastly, you discuss trade-in.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:36 pm to
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1) With all of the incentives being offered like no payments for 90 days, low financing, etc., where are they going to stick it to me? It all seems too good to be true without a "catch".


Before Covid you could probably get them to stretch you out 45-60 days.

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) I can really do new or used at this point. Can I expect the same perks and incentives if I want a used car? Or do I have to go new


New.

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3) Its the end of the month, so have I lucked into a good time frame to be in need?


No.

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10 years


Your ignorance checks out baw
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37938 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:38 pm to
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Having your financing with the bank in place.


Why is it not a good idea to finance through the company, like Honda, if they offer like 1.9% or something low?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37938 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:39 pm to
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Your ignorance checks out baw



That's why I'm here

I know the OT wouldn't steer me wrong.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:42 pm to
If you haven't had a car note in 5 years, you should have a good stack of cash on hand to buy the next one.

Vehicles don't last forever, so to not save in the meantime is pretty short sighted.

I'm close to paying my truck off and after that will divert a portion of that payment to a seperate account. Its money I'm used to not having and will limit any future financial burden down the line exponentially.

Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:43 pm to
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Why would you buy a car by a monthly payment or # payments? That is the worst way. You buy a car by Price only. Go to Credit union for financing.


A good buddy of mine sold cars for years. This lady comes in and they land on a vehicle. All she cared about was the monthly note. Actually, it was the note and one more thing. This is what she says while doing the paperwork:
"Now tell me exactly how much my note be, WITH the late fee?"
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:44 pm to
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LSUGrad9295


quote:

That's why I'm here ?

I know the OT wouldn't steer me wrong

Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:47 pm to
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Why would you buy a car by a monthly payment or # payments? That is the worst way. You buy a car by Price only. Go to Credit union for financing.


I was just joking, man. Naming a payment is exactly what they want you to do.

The way I do it is to find the exact car I want online, in terms of model, color, and equipment level. If they don't have that exact car in stock, or an identically equipped / priced one, I walk.

I don't expect thousands off of MSRP because I buy quality brands. That itself can become a bit of a sucker's game, especially if you achieve that big markdown by buying a less desirable make/model or getting "discounts" on a bunch of optional crap.

Last purchase, I got for $500 off the price they advertised online, which was about $1,500 off of MSRP. For the exact vehicle I wanted, and a model people actually want to drive, that's good enough for me.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17446 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:53 pm to
Honda dealers are almost never desperate to move cars.

Lots of brand loyalty and they keep inventory at a manageable level from the top down.

If you love Honda, your best bet is to try and put one dealer against another. Email the dealers in your area and tell them what you want and get an out the door price. Also, email the largest dealer within a few hours drive with the same question.

Research the Will Cover method on this website for a great approach.

Don’t walk on to the lot. They love to waste your time there.
Posted by BigLSUNut
Prairieville, La.
Member since Oct 2007
1490 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:54 pm to
1. Decide what car and accessories you want
2. Get 5 dealerships to give you a quote on that vehicle and list any deviations from the specs.
3. Check the fair price of your selected vehicle from the many web sites that do that.
4. Pick lowest quote equal to or less than the fair price
5. Profit

Note: Select 5 dealers because one will tell you to come on in. One will quote you the MSRP and say they will negiotiate. Two or three will actually give you a quote.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8219 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:55 pm to
Get the dealer invoice price. Get the dealer holdback. At that point you should have a good idea how low they can go before rebates. I doubt dealers are to the point they are selling all their cars for less than what they paid for them if that is what you’re waiting on.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:57 pm to
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Y’all make this process way too hard.


For real. Not necessarily the OP, but people just agonize over buying a car. I don’t know why.

I like buying a car bc it means I’m getting a new car.
Posted by Hog Springs
I'm on a boat
Member since Nov 2010
4444 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:59 pm to
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I wanted to use this thread to try to gauge how anxious dealers are to move cars, and it looks like they still aren't just handing them over for next to nothing...


GM of a dealership.....this is your problem on a new car. Dealers aren't the ones 'giving' cars away. It's the manufacturer's who set the real discount, not the dealers. We can only do so much.

For instance I work at a Nissan dealership and from invoice to msrp on a new Versa there is roughly $230 worth of markup. On a new Rogue, you're looking in the neighborhood of $700-$1800 depending on the trim. There's some holdback but it's roughly 3% of invoice so you're talking about 4-500 bucks on cheap cars and $1600 on a loaded up platinum armada. Dealer markup on new cars is somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-8% not including manufacturer incentives and depending on the brand. So it's not like we $1000's to give away. It just doesn't work like that.....we want your trade to hopefully put on our used lot (maybe not you specifically but generally), so we can run it through our shop, make a little money there and then put it on our used lot and hopefully make another couple thousand. However, there's no guarantee that's going to happen.

If you look at used just check the normal websites, find a vehicle you like and look for a fair price. If you like the car go buy it. Really what's $1k if you REALLY like the car. That's something I've never understood about car buyers. If you like the car go buy it.

And yes, we are in the business of making money but our goal is $2300-$2600 average profit per unit sold. Which I don't think a 5%-10% profit margin is a bad thing to pay.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 10:06 pm
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8219 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:02 pm to
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Not necessarily the OP, but people just agonize over buying a car. I don’t know why.

People are afraid one of their friends will tell them they got ripped off. The problem is, no matter what you pay for a car you will have that one friend that will tell you they or someone else they know got a better deal than you. For some people it takes the joy out of buying a new car.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 10:21 pm
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