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re: So apparently there is a subreddit full of people that regret transitioning (NSFW)

Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:26 pm to
Posted by NWarty
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:26 pm to
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It’s PBS and taxpayer funded. It’s one thing to turn off a show that you know is age inappropriate for a child but we’re talking about a show that is marketed as a kids show. How do you not see a sick problem with this?


She’s a character on a show. I thought Caillou was a piece of garbage character, that acted like a petulant little brat, and I refused to let my kids watch it. See, choice?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:27 pm to
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I’m not making small of it, but while we are all fearfully and wonderfully made, we are all fighting our baser instincts.


Your example of cheating on your wife is a choice you make using free will. That isn't even close to being the same thing.

Again, I don't see how you can say you believe in God, who we are taught is infallible and also made you in his image (Genesis 1:27 I believe). If you truly believe all of those things then I am not sure how you can also accept someone changing their biology.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:28 pm to
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She’s a character on a show. I thought Caillou was a piece of garbage character, that acted like a petulant little brat, and I refused to let my kids watch it. See, choice?



So you agree we should be able to pull our tax dollars from garbage we don’t like? Whether it’s religious, sexual, or just an annoying character?

Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:29 pm to
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This is especially true in parents saying their 6-year-old is trans because he said one day he was a girl and started playing with dolls.


There's unfortunately a lot of examples of this.

The parents are being attention whores. There's no fricking way a 6 year old is in a position to draw that conclusion on their own without influence from the adults around them.

And if you are too young to consent to sex, you should be too young to consent to drugs and surgeries to change your gender. You should be too young to consent to ANY non-corrective, elective treatment.
Posted by NWarty
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:30 pm to
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Anyone that acts or appears to be a women is going to naturally be referred to as she/her.


I probably pass 80-90% of the time (which is decent), the only times I’ve gotten misgendered have been accidental or innocent. Fortunately no one has been a jerk about it.

Like I said, my name isn’t male or female so I use them on my email. Voice is incredibly difficult, and the human brain defaults to what it hears very quickly, so I just say she please and be polite about it.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 11:31 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:31 pm to
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Voice is incredibly difficult


Yea that part seems easier for FtoM as their voice will deepen with testosterone treatment most of the time. Not sure how it is possible for a MtoF to change their voice.
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:34 pm to
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I probably pass 80-90% of the time (which is decent), the only times I’ve gotten misgendered have been accidental or innocent. Fortunately no one has been a jerk about it.

Like I said, my name isn’t male or female so I use them on my email. Voice is incredibly difficult, and the human brain defaults to what it hears very quickly, so I just say she please and be polite about it.


The problem is the attention whores that want to push this on children or invent new pronouns to force on all of us. It's not adults that are quietly going about their lives and not trying to draw attention to themselves.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:35 pm to
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Again, I don't see how you can say you believe in God, who we are taught is infallible and also made you in his image (Genesis 1:27 I believe). If you truly believe all of those things then I am not sure how you can also accept someone changing their biology.



I am not accepting of it. It’s sin. I wholly reject that.

I’m just saying that while we are all God’s creatures who deserve dignity, all have varying degrees of sin. Unfortunately, the world will say “3nout checking out that brunette with her giant boobs is just his DNA,” and mostly forgive it with a slap on the wrist. The world and church are not as forgiving of somebody who has more drastic deviance than my own like homosexuality or transgenderism.

I’m not excusing either.
Posted by NWarty
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:35 pm to
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Yea that part seems easier for FtoM as their voice will deepen with testosterone treatment most of the time. Not sure how it is possible for a MtoF to change their voice.


Mtf Voice is a nightmare because you have to train train train. It takes years of learning pitch, resonance, and inflection. Some have gone with the vocal surgery but it’s super risky, is incredibly expensive and the results can be hit or miss.

Testosterone does cause the voice to drop in ftm, so that’s part of the reason why it’s much easier for them to pass and be stealth. A close friend of mine is a transman and transitioned 20 years ago, he’s bald, has an incredible beard, and deep voice. You would NEVER know.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:38 pm to
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I’m not excusing either.


I get what you are saying. I just respectfully disagree.

Free will is free will and we all make decisions and sin because of it. That is 100% different than changing the biology God created you with IMO.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:39 pm to
What's up with The Blue Hose? Were they in the baseball tournament or something? I feel like I've seen something about them recently, outside of TD gender threads.
Posted by member12
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:39 pm to
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I have two boys so it doesn’t affect me


I think we are rapidly approaching a point where they will be considered bigots if they are exclusively attracted to genetic females.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:41 pm to
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I think we are rapidly approaching a point where they will be considered bigots if they are exclusively attracted to genetic females.


Like I said earlier, Blaire White who is a MtoF tranny, was attacked by the alphabet people for saying attacking straight people that won't sleep with trans people is wrong. She is engaged to a biological male FWIW.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 11:45 pm
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:42 pm to
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What's up with The Blue Hose? Were they in the baseball tournament or something? I feel like I've seen something about them recently, outside of TD gender threads.


Yes, they were facing Vandy last I saw.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:45 pm to
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Free will is free will and we all make decisions and sin because of it. That is 100% different than changing the biology God created you with IMO.



Ok. Free will may mean something different to me because I think of it in a strong reformed theological perspective.

That being said, while we may not agree, I understand your argument. it’s a fine line between God’s design and man’s responsibility. We could be discussing the term “free will” from 3 perspectives of religious, social, and political and they all 3 mean very different things.

This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 11:46 pm
Posted by NWarty
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:46 pm to
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attacked by the alphabet people for saying attacking straight people that won't sleep with trans people is wrong.


Believe me when I say, that’s there have been lots of conversation on main stream trans subs that have said these people are insufferable. Regardless of my opinion of Blaire White, those criticizing the “won’t sleep with transwomen” are a very small minority who makes a bunch of noise like seagulls sh***ing everywhere.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:46 pm to
Y’all need to come down to the alter and get prayed for. Them demons got y’all mind all twisted up. Jesus need to set y’all free.
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:48 pm to
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Y’all need to come down to the alter and get prayed for. Them demons got y’all mind all twisted up. Jesus need to set y’all


Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:50 pm to
At least you can’t say someone never told you.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:51 pm to
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those criticizing the “won’t sleep with transwomen” are a very small minority who makes a bunch of noise like seagulls sh***ing everywhere.



Perhaps but that isn't the perception of anyone that is targeted by those "seagulls" as they lump the whole group in as one.
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