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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:16 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:16 pm to Nado Jenkins83
His penis could have been on it to. Doesn't give him the right to shoot him in the back.
Guy walks out of his car towards another he just hit with a gun. frick him.
Guy walks out of his car towards another he just hit with a gun. frick him.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 5:18 pm
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:17 pm to Nado Jenkins83
If the shooter was following Smith to get his plate number, why didn't he just get that and leave? Why did he plow into Smith so hard that he damaged the front of his Hummer, even with a grill guard on it? Lots of unanswered question with this. Does this make you think twice about carrying a gun in your car?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:18 pm to arseinclarse
The argument will be Smith said he had a gun (which he did) and reached for it. This after Hayes was rear ended by Smith and he took off in a hit and run running through the red light. Smith was reckless and Hayes feared for his life when this guy announced then reached for a gun. Hayes was in imminent danger and had to shoot. There is the defense. This will be ugly drawn out court battle.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:20 pm to tigerskin
Why did Hayes approach Smith with a gun? How did he know he would need a gun?
He didn't know Smith had a gun when he got out of the car with one.
He didn't know Smith had a gun when he got out of the car with one.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:22 pm to BRgetthenet
How many times do we have to go over that the witness said Smith was the first one to say he had a gun? THEN Hayes said frick that, I have one too.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:22 pm to arseinclarse
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Doesn't give him the right to shoot him in the back.
Just playing devils advocate here: was he supposed to wait until smith turned around with the gun and had it in his face before he fired? That entire sequence undoubtedly happened extremely fast.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:22 pm to hg
And that is the key.
For a bullet go through Smith and into the wife's right leg, Hayes had to be at the door of the Mercedes at close range.
If that is what happened then it doesn't seem as though Hayes was fearing for his life so much that he approached the Mercedes with a gun already.
Now if Hayes is at his H2 things are a little different as he may be able to say he was fearing for his life. But then how does the wife get hit?
For a bullet go through Smith and into the wife's right leg, Hayes had to be at the door of the Mercedes at close range.
If that is what happened then it doesn't seem as though Hayes was fearing for his life so much that he approached the Mercedes with a gun already.
Now if Hayes is at his H2 things are a little different as he may be able to say he was fearing for his life. But then how does the wife get hit?
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:23 pm to tigerskin
Not the point, Shooter had his on him, Smith's was in his car. See the difference?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:23 pm to arseinclarse
Yet you probably defended Merrit Landry when he shot and killed some 14 year old, unarmed kid outside his house
The game changes when you are put in the situation and your life is in danger
easy to say what you would have done sitting on your couch with an iPhone in hand
The game changes when you are put in the situation and your life is in danger
easy to say what you would have done sitting on your couch with an iPhone in hand
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:24 pm to tigerskin
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Hayes feared for his life
If he feared for his life why did he confront Smith? Hayes is going to Angola
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:24 pm to bayouman
No.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:25 pm to TigerFred
Nailed it
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:25 pm to bayouman
quote:
Not the point, Shooter had his on him, Smith's was in his car. See the difference?
But was smith reaching for his.
Two people saying to each other that they have guns is one thing. One of those people then reaching or drawing their weapon is different.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:26 pm to bencoleman
He feared for his life once Smith announced he had a gun and reached for one. I won't be going round and round in circles with u though.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:27 pm to TigerFred
quote:
Something about the wife being hit in the right leg just doesn't add up.
I mentioned that earlier. I don't understand how she was hit in the right leg. Maybe she unhooked her seatbelt and moved a position facing the driver's side. That's not even an assumption, though.
And, I haven't seen anyone knighting for Hayes, only people questioning what happened because there are obviously facts we don't know.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:27 pm to GynoSandberg
A normal person wouldn't get out of a car with a gun ready to shoot.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:27 pm to bencoleman
quote:
If he feared for his life why did he confront Smith? Hayes is going to Angola
shite this isnt hard
-smith hit n run hayes
-hayes was pissd n followed him
-they both had argument
- smith says he has a gun and goes back to vehicle
-then hayes feared for his life at that moment and reacted
manslaughtee at most.. ive said all along
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:28 pm to Gris Gris
quote:
And, I haven't seen anyone knighting for Hayes, only people questioning what happened because there are obviously facts we don't know.
Me either. But BenColeman has a different opinion.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm to reddman
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was he supposed to wait until smith turned around with the gun and had it in his face
That's how a duel works?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm to tigerskin
The NOPD is so screwed up on this case it is hard to trust anything they do even when you try to give them the benefit of the doubt.
When the issue of Will Smith "potentially" drawing his gun from the car first came out by the first defense attorney assigned to Hayes the NOPD told the media "well keep in mind he's a defense lawyer" when they were directly asked about Will Smith being armed 3 days ago.
So now three days later the NOPD admits that Will Smith had a gun but said they couldn't locate the gun because they needed a search warrant to search the car. What total and utter bullshite. The NOPD should have released the information about 2nd Gun on Sunday night when the loaded gun was clearly visible on the dashboard of the Mercedes.
At this point I do not see how the DAs office will be able to indict Hayes on Murder or even Manslaughter charges. I think he will be charged with illegal discharge of a firearm in Orleans Parish and the unintentional bodily injury to Smith's wife from the fog of war where he just rattled off 6 shots in 2-3 seconds.
When the issue of Will Smith "potentially" drawing his gun from the car first came out by the first defense attorney assigned to Hayes the NOPD told the media "well keep in mind he's a defense lawyer" when they were directly asked about Will Smith being armed 3 days ago.
So now three days later the NOPD admits that Will Smith had a gun but said they couldn't locate the gun because they needed a search warrant to search the car. What total and utter bullshite. The NOPD should have released the information about 2nd Gun on Sunday night when the loaded gun was clearly visible on the dashboard of the Mercedes.
At this point I do not see how the DAs office will be able to indict Hayes on Murder or even Manslaughter charges. I think he will be charged with illegal discharge of a firearm in Orleans Parish and the unintentional bodily injury to Smith's wife from the fog of war where he just rattled off 6 shots in 2-3 seconds.
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