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re: Sirens going off in Edmond.

Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:49 pm to
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it was a long lived rain wrapped EF3-EF4 tornado. Lot of structure damage and injuries.


Yes, but the picture is of a microburst.
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
3913 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:00 pm to
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El Reno situation

Was in Edmond working the Moore tornado when this hit. Sirens, darkness, complete fear.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:04 pm to
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Yes, but the picture is of a microburst.


no, that was the rain wrapped tornado. It's all over the news here. That video was taken by a meteorologist at the KC NBC affiliate.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:07 pm to
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no, that was the rain wrapped tornado


Sigh.

That's a microburst.

Is there a tornado in there? Sure, it's possible/likely, but that's a picture of a microburst.

Calling it a rain wrapped tornado when you can't see a lick of the tornado, but you can see a microburst, is a bit goofy.

It's making the rounds because it's a terrifying picture that looks like a massive tornado to a layperson.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10620 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:10 pm to
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It's making the rounds because it's a terrifying picture that looks like a massive tornado to a layperson.


Slackster, you know there are a whole lot of laypeople out here, right? Cuz that shite looked wicked. Don't laugh at us, just inform us.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 11:11 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9671 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:11 pm to
the whole thing is not the tornado. The tornado is at the back of the column. If you watched a video, which they've been showing here non-stop, you would see the rotation at the back of the column. There was also debris falling from the sky. A trained, competent meteorologist, radar, confirmed damage, injuries (hopefully no fatalities) all say you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:16 pm to
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A trained, competent meteorologist, radar, confirmed damage, injuries (hopefully no fatalities) all say you don't know what the frick you're talking about


, you're clearly not getting the point.

That image shows a microburst. It doesn't show a tornado. There was a tornado in there, but you cannot tell that from the image.

Not sure why this is so hard.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Slackster, you know there are a whole lot of laypeople out here, right? Cuz that shite looked wicked. Don't laugh at us, just inform us


I'm not laughing at anyone, I'm trying to help inform. That picture, in and of itself, isn't a tornado. It's rain that's coupled with vertifke winds that hit the ground and cause straightline wind damages.

It is encapsulating a tornado in this instance, but it's not a picture of a tornado. However, because it's uniform, touching the ground, and in an area we know a tornado existed, it makes for a horrifying image.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9671 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:21 pm to
It was not a microburst. The tornado was on the ground for at least an hour and redeveloped about 30 minutes after it left the ground and hit Excelsior Springs, MO.
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3030 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:23 pm to
Well this thread made it 8 pages before derailing
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:24 pm to
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It was not a microburst. The tornado was on the ground for at least an hour and redeveloped about 30 minutes after it left the ground and hit Excelsior Springs, MO.


Okay.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10620 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:25 pm to
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slackster


quote:

It is encapsulating a tornado in this instance, but it's not a picture of a tornado. However, because it's uniform, touching the ground, and in an area we know a tornado existed, it makes for a horrifying image.


quote:

cable


quote:

It was not a microburst. The tornado was on the ground for at least an hour and redeveloped about 30 minutes after it left the ground and hit Excelsior Springs, MO.


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:31 pm to
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SouthEndzoneTiger


It's not mutually exclusive, but it would be like saying a picture of a yard is really a picture of an ant. You can clearly see the yard, and an ant is likely in the yard, but calling it a picture of an ant is a bit of a stretch when it's definitely a yard.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90199 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:33 pm to
Yeah...that’s a pic of a microburst.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9671 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:35 pm to
Here's the doppler signature. Tell me that is a microburst. That's 30 minutes after the original photo so that must be the longest lasting microburst in the history of meteorology.



the damage

This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 11:41 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90199 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:37 pm to
Are you against the possibility that BOTH events occurred?
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9671 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:41 pm to
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Are you against the possibility that BOTH events occurred?


I live a mile from where it happened, and having experienced both tornadoes and microbursts, yes, I am confident that was not a microburst.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:42 pm to
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Here's the doppler signature. Tell me that is a microburst.


No, that's a picture of a tornado signature on radar.

When you can see one event, but not the other, it doesn't preclude the other event.

The picture is of a microburst. A tornado could be in there (was in there in this case), but you can't see it.

If you showed that picture to a met, they'd say it was a microburst. That's not debatable.

Fwiw, I didn't intend to derail this thread.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:43 pm to
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I live a mile from where it happened, and having experienced both tornadoes and microbursts, yes, I am confident that was not a microburst.


Oh Jesus Christ.

ETA - you win.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 11:44 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9671 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:47 pm to
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If you showed that picture to a met, they'd say it was a microburst. That's not debatable.


ok, maybe there was a microburst in the photo. It has nothing to do with the fricking tornado that was in there.

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