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re: Since gay marriage is legal in alabama,
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:42 pm to OffroadSportsman89
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:42 pm to OffroadSportsman89
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Is alabama no longer viewed as a bunch of toothless goat rapin inbreds?
Within five years they're going to be fabulous!
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:48 pm to Sentrius
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Every American should enjoy the same civil rights in all corners of the country going all the way to the heartland and back.
They already did. Every man has the right to marry a woman and vice versa. The law doesn't say anything about marrying someone you love.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:49 pm to arcalades
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Would you ignorant people stop saying it is legal? It is not legal. It is still against the law. More importantly, it is still sin. No amount of time or overstepping judicial activism is going to change that.
If something is not illegal, then it's legal. Also, eating pork is also a sin in the Old Testament, but I bet you gobble up some bacon.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:55 pm to OffroadSportsman89
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 11:57 pm to AbsolutTiger
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Also, eating pork is also a sin in the Old Testament, but I bet you gobble up some bacon.
New covenant. Christians are not Jews.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:02 am to Bmath
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They already did. Every man has the right to marry a woman and vice versa.
But not the right to marry someone of their own sex.
You can't exclude one group from a civil right and give it to others.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:16 am to Sentrius
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But not the right to marry someone of their own sex. You can't exclude one group from a civil right and give it to others.
Marriage is what it is. Everyone had the same right. Love was not defined in a legal sense. Traditional marriage, while having a religious basis, had been ultimately validated in such a way to protect family units.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 12:17 am
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:21 am to Bmath
"While having a religious basis"
That's the fricking problem
That's the fricking problem
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:28 am to Melvin
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"While having a religious basis" That's the fricking problem
Many of our laws have a religious basis. I'm not debating liberty for all. Only that everyone already had the same rights. However,some people may not have had the additional freedoms that they wanted.
The idea that gays would need to marry is relatively new. The biggest argument I hear is lack of rights in health issues of a partner. It seems that this alone could be handled outside of redefining marriage.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 12:29 am
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:31 am to Bmath
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while having a religious basis
We don't base laws on public policy. Separation of church and state.
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validated in such a way to protect family units.
Gays are just as capable protecting and raising a family.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:37 am to Bmath
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Many of our laws have a religious basis
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Only that everyone already had the same rights.
True.
But...
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However,some people may not have had the additional freedoms that they wanted.
The issue of gay marriage came up when the will of the people decided to legislate and vote away a civil right for a minority with gay marriage bans.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:37 am to Sentrius
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Gays are just as capable protecting and raising a family.
But, they can't create one.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:44 am to Real Pirate
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But, they can't create one.
They can through surrogacy, IVF, and adoption.
Heterosexual couples do that shite all the time, especially sterile ones.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:45 am to Sentrius
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We don't base laws on public policy. Separation of church and state.
If that were completely true, then why not seek to abolish marriage?
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Gays are just as capable protecting and raising a family.
Did I suggest otherwise? It's not about capability of individuals. Marriage provides protections and benefits to families.
Obviously this is what gays want. However, people who oppose gay marriage don't care about that. They generally care about the religious context of what marriage means. Regardless, traditional marriage has been stepped on just as much by heterosexual couples. Thus in lies the hypocrisy of the entire matter.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:49 am to Bmath
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then why not seek to abolish marriage
Why would they do that when it's a social institution that completely predates religion entirely, secular in its origin and began as a social construct to organize society and keep it orderly?
Marriage is something that religion added to themselves.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:50 am to Sentrius
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quote: But, they can't create one.
They can through surrogacy, IVF, and adoption. Heterosexual couples do that shite all the time, especially sterile ones.
Adoption aside, many of these techniques are often considered controversial or even wrong for heterosexual couples by various religious groups.
The whole idea of a double standard by the religious right is generally bunk.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:52 am to Sentrius
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Why would they do that when it's a social institution that completely predates religion entirely, secular in its origin and began as a social construct to organize society and keep it orderly?
bullshite. Marriage originally formed around the idea that women were property that could be bartered with.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:54 am to Sentrius
2 men can't create a baby.
2 women can't create a baby.
I don't care either way about gay marriage. I really don't even have a point. But, your post doesn't contradict mine.
2 women can't create a baby.
I don't care either way about gay marriage. I really don't even have a point. But, your post doesn't contradict mine.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:59 am to Real Pirate
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2 men can't create a baby. 2 women can't create a baby. I don't care either way about gay marriage. I really don't even have a point. But, your post doesn't contradict mine.
What I find interesting is that modern views on homosexuality dispel any notion that these individuals have any form of imbalance.
All homosexuals defy the typical biological role of being attracted to the opposite sex, and yet some still feel a strong desire to reproduce.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:43 am to Bmath
Some women like it in the butt even though that's not how you make a baby. People are crazy.
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