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re: Should Harrahs get a Contract Extension for New Orleans - Deal Dead

Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54813 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:57 pm to
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Since we've been getting all that sweet gambling money, Louisiana has skyrocketed to #49 in the country in most major categories.



We're kicking Mississippi's arse.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:01 pm to
I wonder if other companies would bid against Harrahs?

If so it wouldn't hurt to listen.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57447 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:02 pm to
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add an area for live entertainment, that would be a good thing. It would be something else that will bring people into the city.


Because there isn’t anywhere in New Orleans that pulls major and minor live music...
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7355 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:42 pm to
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I wonder if other companies would bid against Harrahs? If so it wouldn't hurt to listen.


I would love to see the state do this. Open it up to several different proposals/bids, and then try to get a higher return. We have six years before the contract is up.

Six years is shorter than some car payments. A lot can change in the gaming industry between then and now, especially if they extend this to 2054.

I am okay with removing the restrictions that were in the initial gaming law, but I am dead set against any new or extended contract. Some of those restrictions should have never been on the books.

Just like how the state is reconfiguring other gaming establishments to be limited by number of gaming positions instead of footage. I agree with this as I hate to say this, but I have seen some huge machines at some casinos.

Also, I don’t know if this is a Louisiana law or just a configuration or security issue where no one under 21 is allowed on the gaming floor even if they are accompanied by an adult. So at places like Harrahs you cannot bring children to go eat at their buffet. You can do it if it is at one of the outlying eateries.

In Mississippi, this is not an issue where you can be walking with your kids right near the tables and slots or standing in line waiting to go eat.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:57 pm
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21316 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:32 pm to
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Well that's what happens when the politicians, law enforcement, and judges get on the Harrahs pay roll.


Harrah's just needs to get LaToya a brand new high limit credit card and they're in.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5827 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:50 pm to
Listen people, the politicians are on Harrahs payroll. They want what's best for Harrahs (and their pockets), they could not care less about NOLA.

This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68268 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:06 am to
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Kind of like when Edwin Edwards wanted to get people to vote for riverboat casinos, he told everyone all the money it generates would go to education.. And in reality, I don't think education saw a cent of that money?






Actually bossier parish has done pretty decent job sending the money to education. All things considered they have a really good school system.

Shreveport, on the other hand (200 yards away) is mostly shite. There are a few excellent exceptions which is why i reside in shreveport.

Of course, one 4 second glance at demographics tells the whole story, from mayor on down
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76178 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:17 am to
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they could NOT care less about NOLA.

Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10110 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:26 am to
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Times Pic reports that the expansion does call for a 7 million dollar increase in annual payments while removing certain restrictions that were placed in the initial gaming law.


no worries for Harrah's. just tighten those slot machines even more than they already are.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
5992 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:27 am to
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Should Harrahs get a Contract Extension for New Orleans


Absolutely. Harrah's/Cesar's is the premier gambling group. The only one close is MGM and if they took over nothing would benefit the state financially so keep it how it is for continuity. Harrahs has and will invest a lot of money into that property.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7355 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:07 am to
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Absolutely. Harrah's/Cesar's is the premier gambling group. The only one close is MGM and if they took over nothing would benefit the state financially so keep it how it is for continuity. Harrahs has and will invest a lot of money into that property.


I just don’t buy this. Especially, after Harrahs Cesar’s bankruptcy record. I know they kept the New Orleans property out of the last bankruptcy.

Actually, since the start Harrahs has treated the New Orleans property as a separate entity in its books. Primarily too keep it from being a drain on its portfolio especially in the early years with its high taxes and debt from building its facilities and failed temporary casino which declared bankruptcy after just a few months of operation. Also, who can forget the numerous delays and over runs in construction, and the eventual dropping of the 100 million dollar minimum in taxes to 60 million.

Also, if memory serves me right, Harrah’s won the deal without the lease to the Rivergate and was “forced” by state officials into creating a joint partnership with the lease holders who was the other bidder.

Harrahs may be a worldwide brand but it has the track record of a Sears instead of an Amazon.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 5:08 am
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32776 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:39 am to
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I think Harrahs is good for New Orleans. IMO, it's the best casino in the state.


The Golden Nugget in Lake Charles > Harrah’s.
Posted by geauxscott
Member since Nov 2007
939 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:54 am to
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino will be in New Orleans soon.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7355 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:21 am to
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Hard Rock Hotel & Casino will be in New Orleans soon.


We can only dream so hard in New Orleans because of shortsighted politicians who are looking for a quick payoff than a long term gain.

Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24564 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:31 am to
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if they would add an area for live entertainment

Wuuuuuuut?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:45 am to
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but I’m not sure where they would go in the tourist areas.



Put them in the poor areas. Central City and 9th Ward.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37027 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:31 am to
I'm torn on this. I think the current setup with Harrah's works well. I don't want NOLA to become a gambling city - I think the fact that we are a city with lots of great attractions - gambling being one of them - is perfect.

I do think the limit on 15 boats needs to go away, and I also think we should do like MS and stop requiring an actual moveable boat.

I can understand why Harrah's wants an extension, if they are going to make major investments.

I would imagine moving Harrah's out and another operator in to the Rivergate would be a massive undertaking.

I'd let them have the extension, and let the other companies do better boats.
Posted by chillygentilly
70122
Member since Aug 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:02 am to
I’m fine with Harrah’s getting an extension, just give me my sports betting at the Fairgrounds. Any word on how that is moving along?
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7355 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:24 am to
Looks like our “do nothing legislature” left this one alone this year. But not without true Louisiana politics showing its ugly head and a deal that no one liked almost got passed.

I doubt Harrah’s will start on their improvements to their facilities now but at least now a better deal or an open process can be used to open the license to a bidding process and allow others to bid on the license.

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