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re: Shooting at church in white settlement,TX

Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:52 pm to
I've never been to a church that had armed security personnel. Is this normal?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30041 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:52 pm to
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I don’t watch any of those networks or visit their websites.


If that is the case you shouldn't say:

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You won’t hear anything about this in MSM because licensed armed individuals took care of business.


The fact you don't watch or read any MSM coverage means you are just spouting someone else's talking points.


Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:57 pm to
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I've never been to a church that had armed security personnel. Is this normal?


Most churches I’d imagine at least have LE parishioners that carry in church.

The church I attend hires a team of LE each week that handle traffic and I’m sure they patrol while services are ongoing. Our church is quite large, though.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:01 pm to
Old man has a hell of a shot.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4638 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:03 pm to
NSFW. GRAPHIC VIDEO OF SHOOTING AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE.

There were a number of people who had firearms throughout the church. A man that obviously took CC seriously and practiced saved a lot of lives. Unfortunately it appears one of the CC’s couldn’t access his CC and was shot. Very sad days we are living in.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37002 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:04 pm to
I can see that with the large churches. I guess I've just never gone to one large enough.

And I guess I probably have been to one that had them, but I don't remember these days.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12795 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4362 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:11 pm to
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You won’t hear anything about this in MSM


Incorrect.... I already have several times. You won’t due to obvious reasons.

Glad the guy got dusted into oblivion by a good law abiding citizen. Hey man, nice shot!!! Several members of the congregation can be seen packing heat after the loser was downed by the hero.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45296 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:11 pm to
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I've never been to a church that had armed security personnel. Is this normal?


We have 10 individuals that rotate at my church. They are all church members and include a few LEO officers.

4 people are on duty at every event at the church and it rotates so that nobody aside from the those individuals know who is actually armed.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:13 pm to
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The fact you don't watch or read any MSM coverage means you are just spouting someone else's talking points.


I’ve spoken to people I know in the white settlement area that are telling me that they don’t think it’s being covered correctly aside from the local media and I’m inclined to agree with them if they think that.

I do agree that you make a good point in regards to my comment though
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
2030 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:19 pm to
Two poor guys took shotgun blasts right to the chest. Crazy times we live in.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120318 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Proverbs 3:31 - Do not envy a man of violence and do not choose any of his ways


So if someone comes at me with some violence, it's a sin to fight back with violence?
Posted by Lugnut
Wesson
Member since Nov 2016
1509 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:25 pm to
The old man Takes him OUT jack!!
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30041 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:28 pm to
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I’ve spoken to people I know in the white settlement area that are telling me that they don’t think it’s being covered correctly aside from the local media and I’m inclined to agree with them if they think that.


I would tend to agree with that. National news media HAS to piggyback off local media for initial reports of stories like these. The National media is repeating what I see in the DFW media if there is a White Settlement media outlet it would likely have the best facts but I haven't seen anything that local. The national media is seeing this from 30,000 ft.

That said everyone that reports news has some level of bias if one is really interested in the truth you have to take it all in and come to some reasonable conclusion doing your best to set aside your own bias which I admit is difficult. While based on the person at the mic in the pulpit this was their security but he could have been mistaken in the heat of the moment so that reporting could be wrong. If you notice the twitter video that was trumpeting the CCW good guys notice it was edited to stop prior to the mention of security being the shooters. Like I said you have to eat it all, poop out the turd and polish it well as you can.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:31 pm to
Yup I agree with you. Everybody will never be happy with how it’s reported.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31341 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:31 pm to
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I don’t watch any of those networks or visit their websites.



So how would you even know? I agree the MSM has an agenda they try to push but it seems so do you and the outlets you seek out.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:32 pm to
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Smoke that bitch!

They did
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:35 pm to
Security guy was a former FBI agent
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 4:35 pm
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6969 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:44 pm to
I lived in that town 5 years ago. It’s an interesting town. For the most part it’s low income and starter homes. The inside of the loop 820 in white settlement especially around the last Vegas trail area is black and minority. There are lots of low income apartments and government subsidized housing.

Unrelated to this, there was also a huge population of gypsies/Irish travelers in the area that would con businesses out of anything they could. I think the cops ended up driving them out of town but they were virtually trespassed from every business in town and still harassed restaurant workers and store clerks.

It’ll be interesting to see what the motive here is. Just going to guess it’s not a specifically targeted victim but more of someone with some angst against Christianity or someone with some mental issues.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4638 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:45 pm to
I haven’t seen that reported, but his reaction, mechanics, and delivery suggests he had top tier training and was ready for this encounter.
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