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re: Seattle Autonomous Zone now has a warlord. It’s been 2 days.

Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:01 am to
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Are you seriously white knighting for this gang of fail?


the only thing i'm white knighting for is the truth
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:03 am to
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You’re calling people here easily worked up when you people are burning down the country?


Joe Rogan had a good segment on this with Krystal & Saagar the other day. It's a long, detailed conversation about what is and isn't happening & I agree with everything Joe said about it.

So I guess if I'm a sky screamer he is too?
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 9:04 am
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:03 am to
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Then why is everybody there saying people are free to come and go as they please
The same way anyone involved with something called the Capital Hill Autonomous Zone would want the publicity to be in their favor.



Why would anyone involved with this say anything publicly counter to that?

Did we not hear the same thing with Occupy Wall Street initially?

Then later on, we heard there were assaults, rapes, rampant drug use, etc.

No, I am not saying it is the same situation, but there is zero reason why anyone should expect to hear accurate information.

We saw the same thing with the protests.

There is a great picture of a reporter stating that everything is peaceful while a building burns down behind him.

When every aspect of what we hear is politicized, and people have their own significant biases, how can you take anything as fact?
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:03 am to
Would you be as big an advocate if a bunch of Ultra Conservative people took over an area in a city and held a "Woke Wooodstock" replete with weapons and checkpoints?
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:04 am to
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the only thing i'm white knighting for is the truth


Always lying
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:04 am to
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So I guess if I'm a sky screamer he is too?


Rogan is a pothead who is wrong about any number of things.....why would you even post an idiot like that as some sort of reliable source?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:05 am to
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No, I am not saying it is the same situation, but there is zero reason why anyone should expect to hear accurate information.


There are also videos out there showing people walking in and out, nobody is guarding anything with an assault rifle and nobody is being checked or questioned. They say they put up the barricades bc they were worried about a vehicle attack.

Posted by nugget
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:05 am to
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I agree with everything Joe said about it


Oh well if that’s the case, everything is good. I’m sure you’re going to denounce the democrats who claim systematic racism while controlling every system in the US for 40 years.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:06 am to
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the only thing i'm white knighting for is the truth


You've summarily dismissed anything negative about the guy that those in the area have called a tyrant.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:07 am to
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They say they put up the barricades


Which is funny because these are the same idiots who advocate open borders....
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:07 am to
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why would you even post an idiot like that as some sort of reliable source?


Well #1 he is definitely not an idiot.

#2 I bring him up because anyone with any common sense wouldn't claim he's got some kind of progressive agenda.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:10 am to
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with any common sense wouldn't claim he's got some kind of progressive agenda.


You mean the guy who said he was voting for Bernie Sanders?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:10 am to
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You've summarily dismissed anything negative about the guy that those in the area have called a tyrant.


That's not true at all.

Once again, what we know is there's a video out there of him beating up a tagger + another one with him getting into a confrontation with someone else. I don't understand why they haven't ejected him yet & he should be arrested & charged for assault based on the video as there is nothing that is actually autonomous about CHAZ.

Though I imagine the police won't want to touch him in fear that it sets off the mob again, which is a shame and shows the problem with how the far left is viewing things.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:11 am to
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You mean the guy who said he was voting for Bernie Sanders?


And now says he's voting for Trump
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:11 am to
You're intentionally ignoring the basic truth that this exercise is an attack on US sovereignty in the most literal sense.

You have no interest in the truth.
Posted by Fat Batman
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:12 am to
This thread was a lot more interesting before you showed up.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:12 am to
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Would you be as big an advocate if a bunch of Ultra Conservative people took over an area in a city and held a "Woke Wooodstock" replete with weapons and checkpoints?


If people were making shite up about what was really going on? Absolutely.

Unlike most of you my principles come before being on any kind of political sports team.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to
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this exercise is an attack on US sovereignty




you need some rest
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to
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I don't understand why they haven't ejected him yet


Yes, you do. But it offends your view of what you pretend are the facts. So you pretend you don't understand.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to
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There are also videos out there showing people walking in and out, nobody is guarding anything with an assault rifle and nobody is being checked or questioned.
There are also videos of people being forced out, of pictures of armed groups, of people being assaulted, and of their “police” forcing journalists out of the area.

You speak of being moderate/middle ground, but you only accept reports that make this situation look good.

This is where you lose people.

You state that you switch to an independent and the current Democratic Party is losing their mind, but you can’t let them go. You still feel that you should support/defend certain actions/activities.

That is expected though. Everyone who ties themselves to an ideology has the same issue. I do too.

You need to recognize that fact though.
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