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re: School Cop caught on film beating student- UPDATE PG 1

Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:51 am to
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:51 am to
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Of course he was just reassigned.

Before commenting I did something called reviewing the information and not just posting garbage from an ad-site. This "school" is in a bad part of town and is one of the worst performing in the Baltimore city school syste. FACT
The two security guards (that's what a school cop is) responded to a call that two young men were trespassing and were asked to remove them. FACT
Your quote above, well he was reassigned pending the outcome of the investigation. It is still a union job that could be very bad for the city if they were to terminate prior to investigating.

This 4 second clip looks bad, but based on the reaction and the fact that his friend was ready with the camera I would imagine there is a large part of the story missing.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:04 am to
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Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98740 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:06 am to
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The two security guards (that's what a school cop is)


Doubtful. "School cops" are not security guards brah.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11633 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:10 am to
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"School cops" are not security guards brah.

They are a separate entity from the police force, receive far less training, have no formal jurisdiction in terms of enforcing laws, and carry non-lethal weapons. Sounds like every security guard I've ever seen, bruh.

ETA: Baltimore School Police have the full authority of a peace officer throughout the city.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:31 am to
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I'm fine with it. Some dude who isn't a student is on a school campus and when he is nicely asked to leave school grounds he refuses. Tell me Tange, how would you remove the trespasser from campus after he refused your request and before he sells drugs to the students?

Call the police to charge him and hopefully they would follow the law when removing him.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 10:40 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:37 am to
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So you are saying that trespassing, as it was alleged in this situation, is grounds for assault?



Never.

But if I were given a choice- I would go with being assaulted like that over being arrested any day.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:38 am to
dude was probably there selling drugs to kids. he deserved a beating
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:45 am to
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They are a separate entity from the police force, receive far less training, have no formal jurisdiction in terms of enforcing laws, and carry non-lethal weapons. Sounds like every security guard I've ever seen, bruh.

not true in every area
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11633 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:46 am to
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Call the police to charge him and hopefully they would follow the law when removing him.

Absolutely appropriate, no problem at all with this being what was used. Would this have been news 20 years ago? Security officer slaps kid on the back of the head and tells him to get out of somewhere he is not supposed to be? I also want to know what transpired prior to this. This kids friend didn't press record and limit it to a 4 second excerpt because this cop charged them unprovoked. Does it make it right? No. I also think absolving the "victim" of a two sided confrontation is asinine. There are two parties punish both appropriately and be done with it.
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:48 am to
Good thing the white cop didn't join in....or there would be rioting in the streets.

Just saying.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11633 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:49 am to
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not true in every area

True, I read up on the Baltimore School Police and they are in fact full-scale cops. They even have authority throughout the city limits just as any peace officer.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25920 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:51 am to
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Anything to condemn him I suppose. I noticed you haven't changed the thread title.



What are you talking about? No one is searching for anything. They are simply looking at the video. I can tell you that no police training will tell you to open hand slap someone multiple times, whilest cursing them, and then kick them as they are reeling from those strikes. No training. That is not a police action. Therefore the police was just a guy. And that guy was guilty of assault. Cut and dry.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:33 pm to
Officers now charged with assault.
And to those who said the kid was not enrolled at school- sorry to disappoint, but he was. Stick it.
LINK
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7105 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 3:55 pm to
fart
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159407 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:07 pm to
Weird how your thread title says "beating" but the CNN article says "slapping".

I give the officer and A for his slaps though. Good contact. The swift kick the arse was nice. It didn't really connect though. He gets a C for that. Final grade = B
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 4:09 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45198 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:19 pm to
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The day after the incident, Lauren Geisser, an attorney for the teen and his parents, said she had documentation identifying the youth as a 10th-grader at the school. She said he suffered face and rib injuries.

"The boy had a right to be at the school where he was an enrolled student," she said.

"With respect to refusing to leave the school, the student didn't want to leave the school where he had a right to attend."
This sounds sketchy. Was he suspended at the time and not supposed to be there?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40907 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:22 pm to
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LSUTANGERINE


It took a few, but you finally got something here. Hate to say it, but I agree with you on this one.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61721 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:28 pm to
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This sounds sketchy. Was he suspended at the time and not supposed to be there?
If parents had spent as much time making sure he wasn't truant smartass as finding a lawyer...this probably doesn't happen.

Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138847 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:40 pm to
These things can happen with the mindset that some kids can have that the adult can do nothing and the kid can do whatever they want. They have nothing to fear.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 4:41 pm to
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If parents had spent as much time making sure he wasn't truant smartass as finding a lawyer...this probably doesn't happen.

You could be right. But one thing we know With certainly is that if the school cop had not beat him it would not have happened.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 5:58 pm
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