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Posted on 9/2/16 at 11:13 pm to cwill
Just curious, what was the suicide rate back in say Colonial America? The Renaissance?
Certainly life was not as stressful then, and the rate was lower. Right?
Life can be just so whirlwind now and you can perceive yourself just getting way behind. And for no real reason.
Certainly life was not as stressful then, and the rate was lower. Right?
Life can be just so whirlwind now and you can perceive yourself just getting way behind. And for no real reason.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 11:22 pm to East Coast Band
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Certainly life was not as stressful then, and the rate was lower. Right?
Life is stressful. It's the human condition and part of the curse of self awareness of your own mortality.
It's why people who believe in flying spaghetti monster live longer. There's less stress on you generally when you think life is just building up to something greater.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 9/2/16 at 11:31 pm to East Coast Band
Occupations most likely to increase risk of suicide
LINK
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Physicians: Male doctors 1.87 times more likely to kill themselves than the average non-physician. Women physicians are 2.78 times more likely to kill themselves than the average female worker.
Dentists: 1.67 increased likeliness of suicide among those in the profession.
Finance Workers: Finance workers, such as those working in financial service departments and sales occupations, are reportedly 1.51 times more likely to commit suicide than the average worker.
Lawyers are 1.33 times more likely to commit suicide than the average person.
LINK
Posted on 9/2/16 at 11:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
my company led the industry for suicides for a stretch from right after 9/11 until just a couple of years ago
Posted on 9/2/16 at 11:53 pm to LSURussian
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I guess I'm in the denial stage. I just can't believe this. We've traded emails and financial tracking spreadsheets over the years. I feel sick. He was just celebrating passing the Level 3 CFA exam. I can't understand what happened.
This place is weird like that. The poster from the poliboard ( I feel terrible for forgetting his name) was one of the most thoughtful strangers I've ran across here. Checking in by email every once in awhile and asking about local politics. Never think deep down they're looking for a way out.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:12 am to SmackoverHawg
Smack, I was in a similar situation as u and after a health issue I made the decision that I had no choice but to simplify. I am in the same profession as u with expectations coming from everywhere which felt overwhelming. U can simplify if u want to. Life does not have to be 1 million miles an hour or zero. Sure some people might judge u but I finally realized that living how others want u to live is not the way to do it. If u ever have further questions regarding this, feel free to ask.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:19 am to cwill
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You can't help yourself. "Look at me I'm successful."
Not OTing it here, but your response is a great example of the problem with suicide issues in our society.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:22 am to tigerskin
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High achievers
Yep, I had a post about that earlier in this thread.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:23 am to USMCTiger03
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is a great example of the problem with suicide issues in our society.
agree, I think a lot of these achiever types step back and say to themselves "and where did it get me? I'm as miserable as frick"
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:27 am to BluegrassBelle
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Honestly, all that says to me is we need to have a far more open conversation about mental health and substance abuse in this country. We tend to associate those problems with people who are outliers in society. You can be wildly successful, incredibly likeable, and a functional human being and have those issues. But people want to turn a blind eye or think it can't happen to them or to loved ones that are otherwise pretty normal folks. This absolutely breaks my heart.
That's not just a post on a message board, that's something we as a society have got to evolve to understand and deal with somehow.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:29 am to 777Tiger
Yeah, I'll just repeat what I said earlier many pages back
Absolutely. People with a lot of drive are also the ones who can hide the most demons. They have invested a lot in their future and their career is a huge part of their identity. Disillusionment, being passed over for a promotion or anything that derails them even temporarily can have devastating consequences.
I've seen it even with high achieving students in school when approaching graduation realize their pursuit of perfection is futile.
Absolutely. People with a lot of drive are also the ones who can hide the most demons. They have invested a lot in their future and their career is a huge part of their identity. Disillusionment, being passed over for a promotion or anything that derails them even temporarily can have devastating consequences.
I've seen it even with high achieving students in school when approaching graduation realize their pursuit of perfection is futile.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:30 am to USMCTiger03
The guy died. Hate to see that for such a young guy! This should be a thread celebrating 
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:34 am to Pilot Tiger
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It's not uncommon for people to be REALLY fricking happy/manic before committing suicide
Yes. It's a mental distraction. Something to pour yourself into to avoid thinking about the black cloud.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'll just repeat what I said earlier many pages back
you never really know what's going on inside of people, some of the people from work that did it, you look at their life's work, their accomplishments, their families, and think that that person couldn't have had it more together, and never know they're suffering every waking moment
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:40 am to 777Tiger
It's trying to keep all of that high level
of accomplishment going. It can become a strain and a burden.
of accomplishment going. It can become a strain and a burden.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:41 am to 777Tiger
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you never really know what's going on inside of people, some of the people from work that did it, you look at their life's work, their accomplishments, their families, and think that that person couldn't have had it more together, and never know they're suffering every waking moment
Very true. Friends 26 year old son killed himself this summer, you would never have known something was amiss. He was pushed over the edge by a breakup.
Posted on 9/3/16 at 12:42 am to 777Tiger
Everyone gets sad.
It's the suffering that needs to be addressed. No one should have to suffer
It's the suffering that needs to be addressed. No one should have to suffer
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