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re: Runnels School Closing - Not Just High School
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:58 am to AndyCBR
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:58 am to AndyCBR
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Not sure anything any parent/news person says or does
I suspect the only thing that will sustain the school through the end of the school year and make repayment possible is the cooperation of a bank or banks. If these banks start to get their name dragged through the mud on Channel 2, they can easily say frick it, not worth it, and wash their hands of it.
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:58 am to AndyCBR
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With that said I give myself a 50/50 shot at getting a refund check. Hope I am proven wrong though
I think you are wrong...but only because you are giving yourself too much of a chance. Barring someone stepping up an donating that money to the school for the sole purpose of repaying tuition, that money is gone.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:00 am to Supermoto Tiger
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We should at least be able to use it as a deduction on our income tax filing.
If you itemize, you can... up to the 10K state and local tax limit
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:11 am to The Korean
WOW...what a video.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:12 am to Anonymous95
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I suspect the only thing that will sustain the school through the end of the school year and make repayment possible is the cooperation of a bank or banks. If these banks start to get their name dragged through the mud on Channel 2, they can easily say frick it, not worth it, and wash their hands of it.
I can’t speak intelligently about who and what is owed or not. We’re all speculating. That is the major problem with the lack of transparency in the finances of this school.
Keeping things hush hush hasn’t worked out very well up to this point.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:26 am to AndyCBR
I agree with you. And, for the guy that posted the video, that may be the only satisfaction he gets for his $10K, so I can't fault him for it.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:49 am to Anonymous95
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Recording
I think it’s funny the dude was trying to be sneaky and was busted for recording.
I think the owners did a good job of handling the objections although it’s become a shite show. The owner sounds like a reasonably intelligent man. He should have been a Dean of the school but not in charge of the finances or operations. He bit off more than he could chew and I hope parents don’t get jipped out of tuition money in the end. If they do, the owners deserves everything coming their way.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:08 am to LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:15 am to NPComb
quote:since the flood parents should have been able to read between the lines and have an executable plan "B" ready. Prepaying tuition would have been a big NO for me....
I think the owners did a good job of handling the objections although it’s become a shite show. The owner sounds like a reasonably intelligent man. He should have been a Dean of the school but not in charge of the finances or operations. He bit off more than he could chew and I hope parents don’t get jipped out of tuition money in the end. If they do, the owners deserves everything coming their way.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:17 am to dixiechick
You talk as though public education is some newfangled idea. Public education is the norm in our country. It is the default. In LA our views are skewed because our public education systems have become so bad.
I love public education. It means that the people I encounter in everyday life are likely to at least have some minimum level of education which forms a basis for any meaningful interaction we have.
Public education is part of the social contract that helps to bind us together as a nation. We all pay for some things we don’t personally use but we, as members of society benefit from. Others have used the examples of roads. You may not drive on a particular street but the chef and waiter at your favorite restaurant drive on it every day to get there and be able to serve you. Don’t want to pay for that road? Then don’t expect that people who provide services for you will be available for your convenience.
I really don’t get why people have opposition to the concept of public schools. The execution, especially in LA, sure. But the concept is a winner. An educated citizenry is better for everyone.
I love public education. It means that the people I encounter in everyday life are likely to at least have some minimum level of education which forms a basis for any meaningful interaction we have.
Public education is part of the social contract that helps to bind us together as a nation. We all pay for some things we don’t personally use but we, as members of society benefit from. Others have used the examples of roads. You may not drive on a particular street but the chef and waiter at your favorite restaurant drive on it every day to get there and be able to serve you. Don’t want to pay for that road? Then don’t expect that people who provide services for you will be available for your convenience.
I really don’t get why people have opposition to the concept of public schools. The execution, especially in LA, sure. But the concept is a winner. An educated citizenry is better for everyone.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:28 am to MurpheyJT
Somewhat of a hijack, but did the reason for their firing of Greg Brandao as principal a few years ago ever surface? I remember reading a quote from Runnels implying that he was running the school like a military academy, but that always sounded like bullshite.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:33 am to dixiechick
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It does not require every child to attend a public( or publicly funded) school, although I think this is where we are headed.
I guess I'm confused... in every state other than LA, an even higher percentage of kids attend public school. Private / religious schools are exceedingly rare. And once you get out of urban cores, almost unheard of.
So this "where we are headed" thing is where the other 49 states already are. We are just simply catching up with the rest of the country.
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Jindal et al through Ed reform legislation did not make public education better.... what they did was create an environment in this state where the tax payers are now subsidizing privately run schools( don’t you run a non profit???? You know this already!!!) and it’s killing true private schools because it becomes harder and harder for them to compete.
The percentage of private schools in LA is only so high because the public schools have been historically so bad, combined with the fact that the predominant religion in S LA, Catholicism, lends itself to a school system (even in N LA, the percent of kids attending publics is closer to national norms).
The simple reality is that if the state didn't "subsidize private schools" there would be a lot less of them. Which means even more kids in public schools.
What's "killing private schools" isn't vouchers. It may be charters, but again, charters are only providing something that everyone else in every other state can get - a quality public education.
The best private / religions schools aren't going anywhere. The marginal ones are the ones that are struggling, as fewer people can afford tuition, and the public schools become a more realistic option.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:54 am to Brummy
I’ve always thought that he started getting the picture of the business side and wanted to make changes. I know he was talking about making changes to job duties and expectations for some of the staff. I believe he was also exploring making teachers pay tuition. Employees kids attend Runnels at no cost. If that weren’t the case, this whole discussion would not be happening. Getting rid of Brandao was the worst thing they ever did.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:59 am to LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:09 pm to Brummy
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Somewhat of a hijack, but did the reason for their firing of Greg Brandao as principal a few years ago ever surface? I remember reading a quote from Runnels implying that he was running the school like a military academy, but that always sounded like bullshite.
He tried to institute some stricter disciplinary guidelines for students as well as holding the faculty and staff more accountable and got shown the door.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:11 pm to dixiechick
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No, the reality is you aren’t a private school if you are being publicly funded.
That's not true.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:26 pm to Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:37 pm to dixiechick
So you’d rather have the school shut down than have it brought in line with a sustainable business and educational model? Nice. Way to be part of the problem.
I’m no CPA or school administrator, but even I know that a model where 1/3 of the students attend for free is destined to fail.
I’m no CPA or school administrator, but even I know that a model where 1/3 of the students attend for free is destined to fail.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 1:01 pm to Wiseguy
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Posted on 3/10/20 at 1:12 pm to dixiechick
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Sustainable by who, taxpayers?? Taxpayers should not have “sustain” private business.i mean, if that’s the only way a private business can keep its doors open then that’s a problem. And if this is what the free market has devolved to then it’s an even bigger problem.
What the hell are you going on about? This is a discussion about a failed business model. You’re the one who keeps bringing taxpayers into the thread. I’m talking about a private school with a leader without the business sense to realize that you can’t have 1/3 of your students attending for free. And you can’t keep sticking your head in the sand and hope it will go away.
Are you one of the Runnels children? You seem to be personally invested here.
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