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re: Royal Enfield Motorcycles

Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:27 pm to
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You don't want to do that on a light weight underpowered motorcycle. If that's part of your plan, you will regret that purchase.


I know nothing about any of this. Can you explain why so I can incorporate that into my research. Like I said, a bike purchase is at least 5 years away for me so I am looking for info just like this to stop from making a poor choice.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:29 pm to
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I just took the msf at Harley.


Do you think it would be a bad idea to take the class even if I know buying a bike is a future and not immediate goal? Or should I wait until I am ready to buy a bike?

Also can you rent a bike for a day or two like you can a car?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:32 pm to
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I am drawn to a more classic look and am not worried about speed or power at all. In fact, I prefer a slower bike. I am as green as they come when it comes to motorcycles and have never ridden one but would like to.



So then you really don't know what you prefer.


Nobody has ever gotten on the highway and said "I wish I had less power to pass this vehicle or get out of this dangerous situation"
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:38 pm to
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So then you really don't know what you prefer.


Nobody has ever gotten on the highway and said "I wish I had less power to pass this vehicle or get out of this dangerous situation"


Thats fair. I guess what I should have said is that I don't intend to be a speed demon and picture more of a leisurely ride on a nice day.

But you are correct that I have zero idea what I prefer when it comes to actually riding. In my mind, I don't want to go super fast and 60mph seemed like plenty of speed. But I am here to be educated and would love your opinion in more detail.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:53 pm to
I'd go Triumph over Enfield.

I kinda want a scrambler.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by C9
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:56 pm to
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I know nothing about any of this. Can you explain why so I can incorporate that into my research. Like I said, a bike purchase is at least 5 years away for me so I am looking for info just like this to stop from making a poor choice.


When you are on a motorcycle and there are big trucks nearby the wind buffets you. Open highways like the causeway are also prone to strong winds that do the same thing. On a lightweight motorcycle that wind buffeting shakes you and makes you feel like you might lose control. It can be unpleasant even on some big bikes but it can be terrifying on small bikes.

If you're riding a bike that is nearly tapped out, you are stressing the motor, it may be somewhat buzzy and unpleasant just from motor vibrations. Top speed on any vehicle is largely a matter of wind resistance. Add in a 10-15mph headwind on a small underpowered bike you can find yourself struggling to get away from big trucks on the highway.

In most of the world there are a plethora of roads w/ lower speed limits in 35-50 mph range - a 350cc RE can make a lot of sense there. Here in the US where you will be routinely operating at 55-70mph that bike is going to feel underpowered and overwhelmed.

A 40hp bike isn't a hot rod by any stretch, that's just kind of the floor for a bike that you plan on using regularly on US highways ( not freeways/ Interstates). The 650 will be much more pleasant to ride. The 450 Himalayan will also be much nicer (Liquid cooled, 40ish hp).

I understand the attraction to the lower price point, for a simple easy to ride bike, but I think you will be making a mistake. Take a course, get your endorsement, get some gear and then try renting a few bikes just to get some feel for how different bikes ride.

Ride Share
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:58 pm to
An underpowered motorcycle is no different than an underpowered car - potentially dangerous. There are times extra power and speed can save you from a bad situation.

For example, you inadvertently make a bad pass and a car is approaching. WIth power and speed, one option is to kick it up and get clear before the other car gets closer.

Passing a car going 65 with a bike that only goes 70 can cause an issue.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:16 pm to
Thanks for the info. Does everything you say also apply to the Honda Rebel 300?

I know its also a smaller bike and I like the look slightly less but the reviews/comparisons I have seen on Youtube are more complimentary of the Rebel's speed and power.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:17 pm to
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The brand that I am most drawn to is Royal Enfield.

Never heard of them.
Posted by C9
Member since Aug 2019
112 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Thanks for the info. Does everything you say also apply to the Honda Rebel 300?


Yes.

Posted by babyray
Member since Oct 2010
279 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:56 pm to
Honda Rebel 500. When you out grow it sell it and get the 1100. Take an MSF course. Spend lots of time working on low speed maneuvers in an empty parking lot. I’ve been riding for years and still practice U turns and emergency stops. It will make you a better rider. Good luck out there.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Sayre
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:21 pm to
If you want to feel like you're riding a bike from the 50s, have at it.

Not my cup of tea.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Honda Rebel 500.


I am now leaning Honda Rebel 500. I like the look of the RE's better but I have heard enough to realize the 350 isn't gonna be enough engine. I have plenty of time to figure out what I actually want but this is my current thinking.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20536 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:29 pm to
The hunter 350 looks like the perfect first bike. Love the classic styling on that one.
Posted by C9
Member since Aug 2019
112 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:37 pm to
You will be much happier w/ the Rebel 500, good choice!
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:42 pm to
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You will be much happier w/ the Rebel 500, good choice!


Or maybe a Super Meteor 650 lol

Thank goodness I can't impulse buy anything right now and will be forced to do the research. I just love the look of the REs.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20536 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:44 pm to
I’d disregard the opinion that a 350 is too small for you. I think it’s perfect for a first bike, assuming you aren’t wanting to take it on long highway stretches, and you aren’t a big ol baw that weighs a ton. If you’re just using it for fun around town, or out on country roads I think you’d be more than happy with a 350 for your first bike…imho.

Ps, triumph has also released a more beginner friendly bike for the first time in a 400cc engine in the Speed 400 for 5k & a scrambler styled 400 for 5700.


Speed 400


Scrambler 400 X

Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:00 pm to
The Meteor 350 reminds me of a Honda CB350 I owned over 50 years ago but looks nice. I did like the Triumph Bonneville 650 for the power but hated the shifter being on the right side.

I'm not all that knowledgeable on Royal Enfield, but they've been around for a long time and suspect they are quite reliable. They're smaller and easier to maneuver.

If you're not experienced, know this. You will eventually drop or crash it and every car and truck out there are potential killers. Find an experienced riding partner to hang out with.

Disclaimer: A Harley is my daily ride.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:52 pm to
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I’d disregard the opinion that a 350 is too small for you. I think it’s perfect for a first bike, assuming you aren’t wanting to take it on long highway stretches, and you aren’t a big ol baw that weighs a ton. If you’re just using it for fun around town, or out on country roads I think you’d be more than happy with a 350 for your first bike…imho.



I think they are warning against it because I stated that I might want to take the bike across the lake on the Causeway or to the beach several hours away. In that instance I think they are correct that I would be better off with a bigger bike. BUT I do have some time to think of what I want to do and the use of the bike.

Riding to the beach may not even be feasible considering I have 2 kids and a wife and it would mean them agreeing to drive another car without me. BUT with a smaller bike, maybe we could tow it to the beach and I can ride it up and down 30A once we are there?

IDK. Lots of time to figure it out though.

Just curious, do bikes hold their value as far as trade ins? I am curious because it seems there aren't many used bikes for sale on line. Is there somewhere besides cycle trader I could look?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
494 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:21 pm to
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I am now leaning Honda Rebel 500.


Very good choice for a first bike. I get the love for RE's. Classic and simple. But that new Rebel is just a really good bike.
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