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Roman emperor Caracalla and the real "Red Wedding"
Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:50 am
Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:50 am
Game of Thrones season 3 spoilers below
I've been back on a roman history kick recently, reading some old books, listening to the history of Rome podcast and stuff. I was on the reign of Caracalla, who I usually just know as a crazy murderous psycho who killed his brother in front of his mother, and oh yea declared every male in the empire a citizen.
But today I was reminded of his own version of the Red Wedding that took place on GoT.
In 216 AD Caracalla promised to marry the Parthian kings daughter to show peace between the two empires. He went to the wedding, his own wedding mind you, and at the ceremony ordered his men to murder all of the Parthian guests, including the bride, and then went along burning every city he came across on his way out of Parthia.
They say that truth is stranger than fiction, I knew Caracalla was a sick treacherous murderer but damn to actually do that is pretty fricked up
I've been back on a roman history kick recently, reading some old books, listening to the history of Rome podcast and stuff. I was on the reign of Caracalla, who I usually just know as a crazy murderous psycho who killed his brother in front of his mother, and oh yea declared every male in the empire a citizen.
But today I was reminded of his own version of the Red Wedding that took place on GoT.
In 216 AD Caracalla promised to marry the Parthian kings daughter to show peace between the two empires. He went to the wedding, his own wedding mind you, and at the ceremony ordered his men to murder all of the Parthian guests, including the bride, and then went along burning every city he came across on his way out of Parthia.
They say that truth is stranger than fiction, I knew Caracalla was a sick treacherous murderer but damn to actually do that is pretty fricked up
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:58 am to Tiger1242
There was a similar incident in Scotland, and probably other places. Our ancestors were bloodthirsty MFers
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The Douglases became so powerful that by the early fifteenth century they were seen as a threat to the stability of the nation.[3] In 1440 the 16-year-old Earl of Douglas and his brother were invited to dine with the ten-year-old King James II of Scotland.[3] Later called the Black Dinner, the occasion was organised by the Lord Chancellor, Sir William Crichton. While they ate, a black bull's head, the symbol of death, was brought in and placed before the Earl.[3] The two brothers were then dragged out to Castle Hill, given a mock trial and beheaded.[3] The Clan Douglas then laid siege to Edinburgh Castle.[12] Perceiving the danger, Crichton surrendered the castle to the king and was rewarded with the title Lord Crichton.[12] It is still unclear exactly who else was ultimately responsible, though it is thought Livingstone and Buchan were likely candidates.[4][5][7]
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:10 am to Jim Rockford
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Our ancestors were bloodthirsty MFers
It's still in us.
Well suppressed these days, but it's there.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:15 am to Jim Rockford
Crazy how little regard people used to have for human life
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:17 am to Tiger1242
Pretty much every GOTs storyline/family is based on some sort of British/Scottish/American historical events, or mythical beliefs in history
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:17 am to Tiger1242
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used to have for human life
Have you had a look around the world lately?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:18 am to Jim Rockford
Sometimes to get your point across, you have to kill a bunch of people
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:20 am to Jim Rockford
This is the one I thought it was based on.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:21 am to TrueTiger
Murder was just wayy cooler whenever it was done with heavy swords and bow and arrows
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 7:22 am
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:22 am to wildtigercat93
Also, Romans were fricking horrible at selecting rulers. They'd have a psycho ruling the empire, he would get assassinated, and they'd just appoint another psycho to be assassinated a few years later.
Or the army would just declare whoever promised to pay them as Emperor, because men who would stoop to bribery are the perfect type of person to rule an empire...
Or the army would just declare whoever promised to pay them as Emperor, because men who would stoop to bribery are the perfect type of person to rule an empire...
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 7:25 am
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:24 am to Jim Rockford
Yeah, it was based off of this. His main inspiration was the war of roses, and English history.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:28 am to Tiger1242
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Crazy how little regard people used to have for human life
Well, when something like 8/11 babies didn't make it past infancy, you become quite comfortable with death. We have an aversion to it because unexpected death happens rarely, relatively.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:43 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Solid point, I wouldn't have survived infancy back then
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:46 am to Tiger1242
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"Red Wedding"
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Game of Thrones
no HODORS only tag
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:57 am to TrueTiger
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quote: Our ancestors were bloodthirsty MFers It's still in us.
Well suppressed these days, but it's there.
Except for the filthy muslims.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:59 am to White Shadeaux
muslim carbomb your bed last night?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 8:12 am to wildtigercat93
I read that Martin says one of his main inspirations was not fantasy, but a series of novels set in medieval France, little known or read in the English language. Les Rois Maudits (The Accursed Kings) was written by Maurice Druon between the mid-1950s and the 1970s. It's a seven-volume saga chronicling the dynastic fight for the French throne in the early part of the 14th Century, culminating in the Hundred Years War.
I bought the first one now called The Iron King, but haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
I bought the first one now called The Iron King, but haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 8:46 am to Tiger1242
quote:they didn't appoint the next psycho. in the late empire the emperors would be assassinated by a rival general usually one who was battle tested from the borders. Whoever assassinated or had the Emperor assassinated was the new Emperor by default until the next power hungry general came calling.
hey'd have a psycho ruling the empire, he would get assassinated, and they'd just appoint another psycho to be assassinated a few years later.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 8:55 am to Tiger1242
I just realized that the old man who was at the head of the table at the red wedding was the old man janitor at Hogwarts in the harry potter movies, and the old man in the strain....
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