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re: Road Rage- Man killed in front of family
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:05 pm to TopHog1
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:05 pm to TopHog1
What a couple of idiots. If either one had listened to their wife it wouldn't have happened. Doyles wife wanted to go to the police sub-station but I think Doyle went home because he wanted to shoot him and thought Stand Your Ground was going to protect him. The other guy was a complete moron for putting his family in that situation. One or both of those kids could be dead right now.
Man, that second 911 call was hard to listen to. Holding those children at gunpoint is going to add a lot of time to his sentence, as it should.
Man, that second 911 call was hard to listen to. Holding those children at gunpoint is going to add a lot of time to his sentence, as it should.
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:09 pm to Hammertime
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Um...the guy was a huge dude. He charged and punched my buddy, then my buddy went inside to call the cops. When he opened the door, the guy had pulled his gf out of the car and was choking her. How does that make him/me a shitty person?
In my experience, these things do not happen to good people. Good people have an uncanny knack for finding ways to avoid situations such as this. I'm not saying that he was wrong in the particular case you're referencing, but the odds are pretty damn good that he was a shitty person in general.
For example, if you've been in more than 3-4 full blown fist fights, you're probably not a good person. You may have been justified in every fight, but finding yourself in that many fights points to a bigger problem.
Just my $.02.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:10 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:You speak a lot of truth in this post. Here is my problem though. Why are we going to waste time inprisoning this idiot? He held children at gun point. Lets just hang him and get it over with. It saves us all a little money.
What a couple of idiots. If either one had listened to their wife it wouldn't have happened. Doyles wife wanted to go to the police sub-station but I think Doyle went home because he wanted to shoot him and thought Stand Your Ground was going to protect him. The other guy was a complete moron for putting his family in that situation. One or both of those kids could be dead right now. Man, that second 911 call was hard to listen to. Holding those children at gunpoint is going to add a lot of time to his sentence, as it should.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:14 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Lets just hang him and get it over with. It saves us all a little money.
This is Florida, he probably wont even be convicted of anything. Once its all said and done they will probably charge the children with trespassing.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:14 pm to MontyFranklyn
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He held children at gun point. Lets just hang him and get it over with. It saves us all a little money.
Potentially justifiable according to a few in this thread.
I question the sanity of those who do not believe Doyle committed a crime.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:16 pm to slackster
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Potentially justifiable according to a few in this thread.
I question the sanity of those who do not believe Doyle committed a crime.
Well, Antonio Moss and his sweet Southern Law degree say otherwise.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:17 pm to slackster
quote:Did Doyle commit a crime? If it were a cop in the same exact situation, would it have been a crime?
Was the cop committing a crime?
You're trying to put police safety over citizen safety. They are not more important than regular people
quote:You must have limited experience, and sound pretty boring
In my experience, these things do not happen to good people
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:20 pm to MightyYat
This thread should be Exhibit A. in reference to your signature.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:22 pm to Hammertime
And how is this not 1st degree murder? He told the 911 operator that he was going to shoot him and.... he shot and killed him. He planned on doing it so it should be first degree. Both of these guys make me 
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:23 pm to Hammertime
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Did Doyle commit a crime?
Yes, he started this whole thing with the road rage. There is evidence to back that up.
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You're trying to put police safety over citizen safety
GTFO. I've don no such thing.
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You must have limited experience, and sound pretty boring
You've admitted yourself that you're not the greatest guy, why are you getting all defensive when someone else says it?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:28 pm to Hammertime
Whole lotta stupid in this thread, same ole trolls..
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:31 pm to TigerBait2008
Sounds like a bunch of idiots
Who stays on the phone and doesn't try to help the person shot on the ground
Who stays on the phone and doesn't try to help the person shot on the ground
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:32 pm to TopHog1
911 call made me sick. So damn senseless
Posted on 7/27/15 at 1:51 pm to MightyYat
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Well, Antonio Moss and his sweet Southern Law degree say otherwise.
Didn't go to Southern
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:04 pm to MrLarson
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I think the guy wanted to shoot him and he got his wish.
He basically admitted as much to the 911 operator while he was still driving. He told the operator he was going to stop and put a gun to the other guy's head well before it happened. He was unequivocal about it too. That's one of the main reasons he will be convicted of some sort of homicide.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:10 pm to MontyFranklyn
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And how is this not 1st degree murder? He told the 911 operator that he was going to shoot him and.... he shot and killed him. He planned on doing it so it should be first degree.
I think the way this played out, Doyle's actions could be classified as more of "in the moment / crime of passion" rather than premeditated.
It's true that he said he was going to put a gun the guy's head while they were still driving, but it was so close in time to the actual shots fired that I think the safer charge is second degree (crime of passion) murder rather than first degree.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:12 pm to TopHog1
MOAR Guns!
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:15 pm to TopHog1
see those crime scene curtains. I always imaged a big one to cover accidents to stop rubbernecking.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:17 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:unjustifiable.
There's an entry wound to the chest and there's three entry wounds to the back
Though Gonzales should never of followed the man.
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:23 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:The road rage started when Gonzalez started tailing Doyle. Don't forget who was trying to get away and who was trying to chase the other one down. Gonzales was the aggressor up until the point when he got shot
Yes, he started this whole thing with the road rage. There is evidence to back that up.
quote:Why do police pull everyone out of the car after an incident like this? Safety. Why is Doyle not allowed to make sure he's safe? I don't think he should've held the family there, but cops pull people out so why can't he?
GTFO. I've don no such thing.
quote:Yeah, I've got some faults, but that does not make me a shitty person. Everyone who knows me would agree that I'd do anything for my friends and family, or complete strangers (which I have done and still do all of the time). Calling someone else trashy for protecting themselves and another person's life from a maniac is ridiculous
You've admitted yourself that you're not the greatest guy, why are you getting all defensive when someone else says it?
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