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re: Remembering the truth about the Pilgrims this Thanksgiving

Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:33 am to
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:33 am to
You should really go back to both read and comprehend that history.

The pilgrims were completely communist and found out the system of equality for all is a total failure.

It damn near killed them all. When they changed to individual merit after a few years, the colony prospered and they had enough to celebrate what we call Thanksgiving.

Communism is a failure and always leads to starvation.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:26 am to
That is not exactly true. Pilgrims were religious and were trying to implement socialism as defined by Plato. They were not communist.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:43 am to
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Also the fact that they (indians) never built a city in the US proper


Never heard of Cahokia in Illinois?

I get what you're saying, but you might want to look into pre-Columbian civilization a little more closely before making a blanket statement. It's a rather interesting archaeological site that provides a real look into civilization here around 600 A.D. without having been hi-jacked by leftist ideologues who want to present a unicorns and kitty-cats narrative.

Definitely look into it. Very interesting.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 8:44 am
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:45 am to
It is the same philosophy.

From each according his ability to each according his need.

The producers say “frick it”. The leeches say “gimme more”.

Everyone starves.

Communism.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7408 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:51 pm to
Its mounds that is not a city
I understand they were there a d in Poverty point,, but the only remains of these civilizations are mounds and a few stones. Look at the inca or mayan, Aztec these were advanced people that built monuments , temples, residents and we got some mounds in a flood plain
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
3941 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:23 pm to
Indians never invented the wheel. That's a monumental stumbling block. Sounds crazy, but it's true. Wheels were introduced by Western explorers.
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 2:45 am to
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he Pilgrims always sought to maintain peace.”
LOL bc going on somebody else's land is seeking peace.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9538 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 2:47 am to
Oh, I see. You need buildings and structures and stuff before you consider anything to be a real civilization. Okay then, check out some of the pueblos built by the Anasazi Indians in AZ, NM, Utah, and Colorado. Remnants of their cities are quite visible to this day.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 3:16 am to
Exactly. This is just a snide comment.

Realistically, this cats were slaughtering each other for a helluva long time though.

The reason they were so brutal to their “enemies”, was because that what they expected in return. That’s why they fought so hard and would die before capture. Would you rather be captured and tortured to death or just be killed.

There a book called Bloodmoon,- I think - that talks about a lot of this.

Comanches had a hard time having children bc apparently vigorous horse riding isn’t ideal for expectant mothers. So they steal your baby. They don’t do anything fricked up except raise it like a white man hating hardass. There’s tales of five year olds being able to scoop a wounded grown man off the ground to horse back because of inertia.

They said Comanches could make it from south Texas to Colorado in a day or so. Evidenced by the time Comanches came from Colorado and slaughtered a bunch of people in south Texas after a day or so. On horse. They ride one till it’s about to die and grab another one. Incredible horsemen.

Also a lot of tribes just chilling growing some maize got slaughtered bc they were locals.

Thats our bad.

Communication really is key.

Caddo Indians got fricked. Lot of other people.

Its really hard to put people in groups who don’t announce they are part of a group.

Anyway.

Bloodmoon maybe. Could be some other shite.

Indians killing white people. Who had the gd foresight to build a big arse wooden wall. With spikes and shite. Around the settlement in area people don’t want them.

Then they left the damn gate open after they saw them coming and are shocked by the outcome.

People are animals. Any race color creed is just a few meals from being a complete shite show.

Posted by SmokinBurger
Bayou Self
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 8:43 am to
We (whites) are all pilgrims baw.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:14 am to
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:17 am to
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Also the fact that they (indians) never built a city in the US proper is only a sign they were doomed to fail

You ain’t never been to moundville?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82762 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:43 am to
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Really? The English were writing, in Old English, 500 years before the Pilgrims landed in the New World.


Yeah, the Indians were more like 2500 years behind the English
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:45 am to
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“The Pilgrims were first attacked by the Indians; not the other way around. The Pilgrims always sought to maintain peace.”


They actually never violated their treaty with the Wampanoag, and they maintained peaceful relations for over 50 years. They ended up beefing over 50 years later.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41102 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:47 am to
quote:

The Pilgrims were first attacked by the Indians; not the other way around. The Pilgrims always sought to maintain peace.


Well, to be fair, we were invading the Indians land.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23651 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:56 am to
The “stolen land” people are simply low IQ with zero understanding of history or how the world works…

America was not stolen.
It was conquered.

The Native Americans were not skipping through a meadow when Europeans arrived…

They were savages.

Tribes constantly at war, taking resources (and land!) from each other. They raided, raped, tortured and literally scalped each other. They were then conquered themselves by a people far more advanced in every quantifiable metric. The natives didn’t even have a common written language, let alone any concept of an advanced civilization. They were living thousands of years behind the rest of the world.

America was conquered. The Natives lost. It resulted in the greatest country in human history
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82762 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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Probably closer to 5000 years behind. Native Americans are stupid


Harsh but fair
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82762 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 10:05 am to
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The “stolen land” people are simply low IQ with zero understanding of history or how the world works…


It’s white guilt on display
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7408 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 1:30 pm to
Yes these were off shoot of the empires of Mexico and Central America.
Southwest natives and almost every other groups of natives are completely different. For the most part they were not nomadic

Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 2:19 pm to
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It is the same philosophy.



Its not. Communism requires that nothing be held above the community. Belief in a deity disqualifies on from being a communist because you hold something higher than the commune.

quote:

From each according his ability to each according his need.


This is not what the Pilgrims believed. I am sorry, its just not. Go read William Bradford's journals and you will know exactly what they believed.
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