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Remembering Former LSU President on Anniversary of his Birth

Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:36 am
Posted by blueridgeTiger
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:36 am


b. February 8, 1820
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:45 am to
The man who burned the south. He only hated blacks slightly less than rebellion against the Union.
Posted by Cshaw91
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:47 am to
Sherman was a domestic terrorist
Posted by Spoonbilla
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:48 am to
Truman used nukes. Lincoln used Sherman. Both to the same end.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:49 am to
Ruthless in war, he was conciliatory in peace. When LSU was reestablished after the war, he donated books from his own collection for the library.

This is from the WIki of his principle Confederate adversary, Joseph E. Johnston.

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Johnston, like Lee, never forgot the magnanimity of the man to whom he surrendered. He would not allow criticism of Sherman in his presence. Sherman and Johnston corresponded frequently, and they met for friendly dinners in Washington, D.C. whenever Johnston traveled there. When Sherman died, Johnston served as an honorary pallbearer at his funeral. During the procession in New York City on February 19, 1891, he kept his hat off as a sign of respect, although the weather was cold and rainy. Someone concerned for his health asked him to put on his hat, to which Johnston replied, "If I were in his place, and he were standing here in mine, he would not put on his hat." He did catch a cold that day, which developed into pneumonia, and Johnston died ten days later in Washington, D.C. He was buried next to his wife in Green Mount Cemetery in Baltimore, Maryland.[49]


The Civil War era was a lot more complex than most of us realize.

Another fun fact: his brother John Sherman was a United States senator, Secretary of the Treasury and Secretary of State, and arguably the most influential non-presidential politician of the last half of the 19th Century. Among other things, his name is on the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:53 am to
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The Civil War era was a lot more complex than most of us realize.



But its so much easier to paint all Confederates as evil enslavers, and the entire Union as only wanting nothing more than what was best for the slaves.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:54 am to
Yes which is why labeling it a battle of good vs evil is lazy.
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:55 am to
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Anniversary of his Birth

You mean birthday?
Posted by CrawDude
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:55 am to
I wonder if General T. Sherman was one of Clint Eastwood’s ancestors - sure a lot resemblance.





Posted by MrQuibehdoh
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:56 am to
What about labeling it keep slaves VS don’t keep slaves?
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:04 am to
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What about labeling it keep slaves VS don’t keep slaves?



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For one thing, Sherman was a white supremacist. “All the congresses on earth can’t make the negro anything else than what he is; he must be subject to the white man,” Sherman wrote his wife in 1860. “Two such races cannot live in harmony save as master and slave.” In a letter to his antislavery brother-in-law about plans to bring his family to Louisiana, Sherman crassly joked about becoming a slave master himself. Making light of the problems he anticipated in keeping white servants, he wrote that his wife Ellen “will have to wait on herself or buy a n***er. What will you think of that — our buying n***ers?”


"As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt. I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."
Abraham Lincoln

Other than the extreme abolitionists, the North didn't really care about the plight of black people. They wanted to preserve the Union.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by thadcastle
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:10 am to
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Sherman

Fun fact Sherman did not burn Charleston. It was actually a fire started by a fish fry.
Posted by Drank
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:14 am to
And a large part of Atlanta burned bc Hood (CS) ordered that the munitions train be blown up near present day Oakland Cemetery. 1st hand accounts would describe the explosions as we would a small nuke. Caused fires throughout the area as the munitions cooked off for days.
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:16 am to
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Sherman was a domestic terrorist


How does anyone even attempt to deny this?
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:10 pm to
TYFYS, General Sherman
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:11 pm to
Pee on his grave.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:10 pm to
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But its so much easier to paint all Confederates as evil enslavers, and the entire Union as only wanting nothing more than what was best for the slaves.
It's also so much easier to portray the opposite of that.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Pee on his grave.


Aint sayin that....

But cant say I smile when I see his picture.

Respect though, he did what others couldn't or wouldn't; same issue that plagued many wars since and to come.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:47 pm to
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How does anyone even attempt to deny this?


War is hell Reb…..
Posted by Tmcgin
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:46 pm to
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