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re: Red Bar (Grayton)

Posted on 2/14/19 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 12:54 pm to
Could it be arson or something to get insurance money due to the Hurricane?
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:06 pm to
No

The hurricane hit 40 miles east several months ago
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:12 pm to
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Seems odd to me with modern fire alarms it would burn to the ground like that the fire dept is not that far away really.


Someone may have accidentally turned something off with the fire alarms or sprinkler system if they had one. My cousin's restaurant on 98 burned down several years ago
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:14 pm to
Seems like that place was printing money to me. Hard to believe any sort of "insurance scam" deal would have really been worthwhile to destroy it to the ground.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Seems odd to me with modern fire alarms it would burn to the ground like that the fire dept is not that far away really.
The building was a tinderbox, seriously. An all wood structure from the 40s.

Once the initial fire started, the high winds spread it and fanned it. It was completely engulfed by the time SWFD got there and completely gone in 90 minutes.

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:24 pm to
Were any renovations ongoing?
It seems like a lot of tragedies like this occur when contractors are removing and replacing things, possibly disabling smoke alarms,etc.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Seems like that place was printing money to me
Number 1 sales tax generating restaurant in Walton County

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Hard to believe any sort of "insurance scam" deal would have really been worthwhile to destroy it to the ground.
Not a chance. The family owns a sister restaurant and has irons in several other businesses in Okaloosa County as well.

It was most likely an electrical issue, I would honestly be surprised if it was really up to code
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:34 pm to
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It seems like a lot of tragedies like this occur when contractors are removing and replacing things, possibly disabling smoke alarms,etc.


This is what happened at my cousin's restaurant, someone who was not an employee disabled the fire security stuff and didn't turn it back on when they were done doing whatever it was they were doing. It was an older wooden building as well
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:36 pm to
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I would honestly be surprised if it was really up to code



Yeah, I was wondering if any of the folks who seem SHOCKED that it got engulfed so fast had ever stepped foot in the place.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:49 pm to
I meant did they burn it to the ground for insurance money?
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:57 pm to
my family has a place off 30a. been going down there since the mid 90's. i hate it for the area, but i refused to go in red bar as they had no credit card machine. i have no place in my life for cash only businesses.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:57 pm to
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I meant did they burn it to the ground for insurance money?

I have no idea why they would have burned down the most lucrative restaurant in an area full of lucrative restaurants and the true heart and soul of the area for some insurance money

There are already plans to rebuild, so that would also be an indicator

It would make no sense and I put the likelihood at 0%
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 1:58 pm to
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i hate it for the area, but i refused to go in red bar as they had no credit card machine. i have no place in my life for cash only businesses.
They changed this policy over a year ago

They take credit now
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 2:03 pm to
that's good to know. when they finish with the rebuild i'll try to pay them a visit.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 2:05 pm to
Oli has promised it will have better bathrooms
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