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Reason.com: the 17% spike in hate crimes last year is misleading

Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74682 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:46 pm
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But as Lopez correctly notes elsewhere in his post, any talk of hate crime increases must be considered in light of a very critical detail: The overall number of law enforcement agencies reporting hate crime data also increased greatly—approximately 1,000 additional agencies contributed figures in 2017 than in 2016. This means it's not obviously the case that hate crimes are more prevalent in 2017. Maybe the government just did a better job of counting them.

This seems even more plausible when the raw totals are considered. The FBI counted 7,175 hate crimes in 2017, compared with 6,121 in 2016. That's a difference of about 1,000. If every agency reporting data for the first time in 2017 reported just one hate crime, this would account for the entire 17 percent increase.

This is the problem with counting hate crimes: The numbers just aren't that useful, given that not all police agencies participate or give accurate totals. As I noted in a previous post, Baltimore County—which represents 830,000 people—reported just one hate crime in 2016. This year, Baltimore County reported 10 hate crimes. Did incidents of hate increase tenfold in a single year? Probably not; it's likelier that the police simply submitted more reliable data this year.


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Makes sense. Our media should do a better job of reporting calming qualifiers like this when they blast to our faces each night that the world is on fire
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:46 pm to
Poli board
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:48 pm to
The media spins it to fit their agenda. I'm shocked I tell you shocked.


Someday most Americans will tune out the MSM and things will return to normal again.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40032 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:48 pm to
This is really lazy analysis. Should we trust any of the crime statistics that are reported year to year then?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74682 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:50 pm to
This isn’t political though, it is a law enforcement story.

How is this a political OP?

Under such logic, does a thread breaking a shooting story belong on poliboard?

Nobody forced you to open my thread

Carson123987 started a college debt thread about how govt caused crisis, and you didn’t bitch.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78647 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:53 pm to
HailHailtoMichigan, don’t be a jerk, bro.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74682 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:54 pm to
How is it lazy analysis?

If we are getting better at reporting crimes, it doesn’t mean the number is actually increasing.

“Police depts getting better at reporting hate crimes” is a lot less scary than “the number if hate crimes rose 17% last year, be very afraid”

A hate crime happens regardless of whether police report it.

This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 2:56 pm
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5909 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 3:00 pm to
Hate crimes are bullshite. The idea of protected classes bothers me. This is coming from a brown dude.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 3:02 pm to
Well, not to mention that the definition of a "hate crime" expands every year. Also, "reporting" a hate crime doesn't actually mean a hate crime happened.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 3:04 pm to
If a white dude strangles a black dude with his hands, it's a crime. If he strangles him with a rope it's a federal hate crime. How retarded is that?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40032 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

“Police depts getting better at reporting hate crimes” is a lot less scary than “the number if hate crimes rose 17% last year, be very afraid”



It's dependent on a multiplicity of factors. If the data for certain years is consistent, then why the spike? You can't attribute that to a lack of reporting. Just eyeballing the trends myself on the FBI website, there was a noticeable spike from 2016 to 2017. Ascribing that spike to better reporting for the crimes doesn't explain why the numbers for 2014 and 2015 are relatively the same. What occurred that allowed police to report crimes better this year, if that is the angle Reason is going with?
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 4:05 pm to

Reason.com has to be fake news.
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