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re: Really need to vent, I'm in a dark place

Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Lago Gato
Member since Dec 2018
2034 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:40 pm to
I hope you’re still here OG . You can kick this but you have to decide if you’re ready to make a life changing commitment. It’ll be a daily decision until you understand that you can’t function as a husband and father messed up. I’ve lost 2 sisters to addiction , they meant a lot to many people and It sounds like you have a family that need and care for you . Take it one day at a time brother . God bless
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2501 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:48 pm to
Really hoping you can find who keeps you strong.
You're a better man without it.
Praying for you, bud.
Posted by Mkay 84
Member since Apr 2018
506 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:51 pm to
Try to keep yourself busy and don’t allow yourself to go back to something that has caused you and others a lot of pain. I’m quitting cigarettes right now and in serious debt, I’m in a dark place too so I can relate.

Keep your head up, it’ll all be alright. Let your mind know that your in control.

Posted by Mkay 84
Member since Apr 2018
506 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:53 pm to
Oh and listen to David Goggins. This dude helped me change my life around. Control your mind.

LINK
Posted by Tigressa del Norte
Seattle
Member since Jan 2009
3089 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:00 pm to
My sister just witnessed tonight an armed robbery at the CVS on College and Lee. A black man and women stole liquor and other things at gunpoint. Their management says this happens all the time and let them walk out. Unreal.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:17 pm to
Good luck, man. Your head can be a crazy place. Just understand that what's done is done and can't be undone. Focus on what to do NOW to make your life how you want it to be.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5473 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

I woke up Saturday morning to an empty house. My wife had taken my children and left.


She thought LSU was gonna lose and couldn’t bear another annual drunken rant. Let her know da tigers won and she’ll return home.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54947 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 5:41 am to
Addiction means you are owned by a substance and no longer in control of "self".

Self determination won't cut it because you're addicted...your body craves to be satisfied...which leads to darkness and emptiness.

You must surrender, this is your only Choice

You must turn yourself in and allow yourself to get professional help.

This is something you can do...love of family should drive you towards loving yourself....to be the best version of you for them.


This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 5:42 am
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:25 am to
I've been there man. Almost lost everything, got sober and now God has given me everything back and then some. It is really hard to get sober alone so I definitely suggest a treatment center
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:38 am to
OP is a loser for bring this to the board. Plans and brags about how he is gonna get completely fricked up while watching LSU and Bama, but is now pissing and moaning his wife left with the kids. Obviously, his wife is sick of his behavior of placing partying during a game over his family.

Maybe if he had less people feeling sorry for his loser arse and actually told him to grow up he might take a long look in the mirror. It disgusts me he is whining about depression and addiction now as an excuse for being a total loser. Whats worse is some of you are buying into it and feeling sorry for him. Feel sorry for his wife and kids.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13595 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:44 am to
1. Stop watching sports on TV
2. Throw away every drop of alcohol in your house.
3. Find an AA or NA meeting.
4. Write your wife a letter containing a contract of what you promise to do.
5. Write letters to your children to apologize for your actions.
6. Clean up your act.
7. Begin physical exercise.
8. Find a church who will support you.
9. Stay away from people who would encourage bad habits and addictions or not stop you from taking the path of darkness.
10. Pray always and do not lose heart.

I will pray for you, but understand that you are guilty of sin here and you must repent and turn away from your life destroying actions.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 6:47 am
Posted by AU1960
ALABAMA
Member since Oct 2008
3632 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:05 am to
Ok, here's the only realistic answer.
You are responsible for your own actions. Look in the mirror and recognize your self.
Self pity will fail you.
Only you can help you.
Acknowledge your demons and let the past remain in the past.

If you truly want peace forgive yourself and move forward.

There is a reason we don't have eyes in the back of our head.

Give it all you have and you'll probably be amazed how easy it really is.

Best of Luck my friend.





Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:10 am to
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Awhile back I posted asking for prayers as I was attempting to kick a long existing addiction. I was able to defeat that demon and the past three days I've failed to maintain that. I woke up Saturday morning to an empty house. My wife had taken my children and left.I really dont wanna put out all the dirt on a public forum but would greatly appreciate any prayers or positive vibes if your not religious.Its early tonight and I'm already in a bad space and would really appreciate it. Never felt a hurt like this before and just cant see any light at the end of this tunnel. It's scary shite... Thank you




There is no one, no program and no drug that can do this for you. There are things that may help YOU do this but that is it. There is also no one thing that helps everyone. AA actually hurts according to some thought so do not stop looking for something that can help YOU do this. AA reinforces to some people that they are OK because look at these other folks failing. You may need to look for a while for the right help. That is another choice.

I tire of hearing of addiction as a disease. That is a canard made for political reasons and to give people an excuse It is a medical condition and I do not care what the politically controlled addiction industry says. Your brain is set up in a way where it is exponentially harder to walk away from that to which you are addicted. Everyone one of us has a level of the same addiction but what to most people is an easy choice is an excruciating and painful path for you. Is that fair? Nope. But it also is not fair that a friend of mine lost both legs in Iraq. It took several surgeries and years of therapy but he is walking again. He made the decision to not give up. This is not that different. Just because something is painstakingly difficult does not mean that is not also simple. And this is simple. You decide to stay on a sober path.

Your post shows you have not decided to make that choice. You act as if these things are happening to someone else. Stop asking for prayers. Nothing external will do a DAMN THING for you if you are not ready to make that difficult choice every hour of every day.

I wish you the best but that really will not matter unless you truly wish the best for yourself.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 7:57 am
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13595 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:13 am to
AA is the standard when it comes to addiction to alcohol. Some vague, sweeping claim dismissing its value by a loser like you should be ignored and eschewed.

The millions of lives AA has positively impacted over the decades, including many individuals I know personally, hush your stupidity.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:14 am to
quote:

asking for prayers as I was attempting to kick a long existing addiction


Yeah prayers are what you need.

quote:

greatly appreciate any prayers


Yep more prayers will solve your problems.



Don't focus on you. Don't focus on finding out why you do what you do.

Pray about it to some entity in the sky. Have others pray to an entity in the sky.

That will solve problems with addiction. Other people fixing it.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:18 am to
quote:

AA is the standard when it comes to addiction to alcohol. Some vague, sweeping claim dismissing its value by a loser like you should be ignored and eschewed.

The millions of lives AA has positively impacted over the decades, including many individuals I know personally, hush your stupidity.






Reread my post. Perhaps learn to read and comprehend.

It MIGHT work for some people but it is hardly the answer for many.

The research is not that vague:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/

https://psmag.com/social-justice/75-years-alcoholics-anonymous-time-admit-problem-74268

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/26/395310213/critic-faults-alcoholics-anonymous-for-lack-of-evidence

https://www.drorma.com/alcoholics-anonymous-a-critique-of-the-twelve-step-model-part-one-2/


I would also add what I consider a well written article from 2011 on addiction and the brain. And why the sex or food addict is not all that different from an alcohol or drug addict.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/how-addiction-hijacks-the-brain

Here is a comprehensive study of addiction treatments which concluded that “the vast majority of people in need of addiction treatment do not receive anything that approximates evidence-based care.” The report added, “Only a small fraction of individuals receive interventions or treatment consistent with scientific knowledge about what works.” It added most addiction treatment providers are not medical professionals and are not equipped with the knowledge, skills or credentials needed to provide the full range of evidence-based services, including medication and psychosocial therapy. The authors suggested that such insufficient care could be considered “a form of medical malpractice.”

https://www.centeronaddiction.org/addiction-research/reports/addiction-medicine-closing-gap-between-science-and-practice

More on alcoholism as a disease:
https://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm

And one newer contention that I think MIGHT have merit. That an alcoholic can drink moderately:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/ending-addiction-good/201404/can-alcoholics-ever-drink-moderately

While I am no fan of Big Pharma, I do hope they can stop trying to give everyone SSRIs at some point and find something better to control the Dopamine issues that drive people back to their addiction. It will not cure anyone but make their choices far more fair.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 7:41 am
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37043 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:43 am to
quote:

It MIGHT work for some people but it is hardly the answer for many.


Stay away from things in which you know little about. AA has helped MILLIONS recover in a TON of different countries.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37043 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:47 am to
quote:


AA is the standard when it comes to addiction to alcohol. Some vague, sweeping claim dismissing its value by a loser like you should be ignored and eschewed.

The millions of lives AA has positively impacted over the decades, including many individuals I know personally, hush your stupidity.


Bingo
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:49 am to
quote:

tay away from things in which you know little about. AA has helped MILLIONS recover in a TON of different countries.


Could you show me the research that shows that success? Or are you just making it up?

And I never said that it was not the right answer for some folks. Just that there was little proof to claims of success and that one program does not fit anyone. You would have to be a truly arrogant jackass to think otherwise.

And I know more than a little about this.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:52 am to
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This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 7:20 am
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