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re: Questions on Leasing a Vehicle

Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:05 pm to
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That's kinda what I said

what i said...he will never listen. Cork comes into these threads with his mind made up just wanting some validation.
Posted by Jon Bovi
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
142 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Corkfather


There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

I've owned, financed and leased. I currently lease and will continue to do so for many reasons. I no longer have to worry about a depreciating asset, I get a loyalty discount from my dealer which drastically reduces the monthly payments, all maintenance is included, and most importantly I will never have to deal with a used car salesman again. I turn in my keys for a brand new car every 1.5-2 years, yes it's that simple. If you know for a fact that you will not go over the annual mileage then leasing should be a no brainer. Hope this helps negate the nonsense most of the people in this thread are spewing. Good luck with your move.
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9696 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:14 pm to
drink that kool aid
quote:

I no longer have to worry about a depreciating asset

and you think the dealer just eats that...laughable
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55646 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:14 pm to
I definitely understand the argument, not that I agree, but I get it. I also agree with your sentiment that too many people just look for the easiest route to what they want, without enough consideration about what they really need and/or can afford. Or if they do consider it enough, they still don't care.

When looking at these decisions alot needs to be factored and weighed by the buyer (other spending habits, vacations, families, other debt, etc etc etc) and in the end, the add'l cost may just come down to a personal choice.

Like, I'll choose a long weekend in Gulf Shores as my vacation with my new King Ranch over a week in wine country and my used Honda. At the end of the year both people may have spent the same money on cars and a vacation, but what did each person want the most.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:24 pm to
Buy a WRX, add some snow tires and have tons of fun. They are only 27-28k loaded out.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98411 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:30 pm to
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. I no longer have to worry about a depreciating asset,


you just pay for depreciation + profit margin each month
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3893 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:13 pm to
This is one of my favorite topics due to the amount of misinformation and Dave Ramsey types who spew it.

It seems the people who've actually leased, understand it and know how it works.

This is a Thread from Money Board with Greater Detail

Overall, leasing can often be more advantageous than buying a new vehicle. This does not account for the used vs new argument, as there are other external factors there.

I created a spreadsheet that compares the two options in terms of total "invested" by the lease end of buying a car vs leasing one.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:14 pm to
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what i said...he will never listen. Cork comes into these threads with his mind made up just wanting some validation.


I haven't made a decision yet. I just don't see how I'm going to buy a car and be able to put $10k down and then pay a note on top of that right now. Like I said, I have to buy a car by April 1st, I have no choice. I could go buy a old Honda or something but then I'm stuck with a beater when I make good money and have zero expenses aside from the rent I'm about to add on.

Spending the same, probably more, on a girl is throwing money away; but it makes you happy, right? Anyone who says they won't spend $15,000+ on a long-term relationship within 3 years is a liar.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:18 pm to
Why do you keep saying you'd have to put 10k down?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:19 pm to
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Why do you keep saying you'd have to put 10k down?


Because I'm not going to do one of those 0 down deals and pay a ridiculous note every month. It's smarter to pay a lump sum and have a smaller note because if something were to happen the bills are easier to cover.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Why do you keep saying you'd have to put 10k down?


This. I bought a used vehicle with no money down before.

I wouldn't recommend it, but it is certainly doable. Just make sure you are paying more than the minimum each month to get out of the red on it. Also, make sure it is something you will no regret purchasing and immediately get rid of.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:22 pm to
The point is to have the lowest note possible so that I can save money and once the 3 years is up on the lease I can go and buy something else outright. You can't save any money with a $500+/month car note.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:23 pm to
That spreadsheet only really works if you plan to get rid of the vehicle purchased at the end of the lease term.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:24 pm to
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The point is to have the lowest note possible so that I can save money and once the 3 years is up on the lease I can go and buy something else outright. You can't save any money with a $500+/month car note.


So you'd rather lease and throw that money completely out the window?

Look I'm all for getting a nice car just to get it, but you're not going to convince anyone it makes sense financially.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5954 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:24 pm to
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I just don't see how I'm going to buy a car and be able to put $10k down and then pay a note on top of that right now. Like I said, I have to buy a car by April 1st, I have no choice. I could go buy a old Honda or something but then I'm stuck with a beater when I make good money and have zero expenses aside from the rent I'm about to add on.


If you're in this great of shape financially that you're only expenses are rent and a vehicle, why not pay $10k cash for a vehicle then sell it when you save up the cash for something nicer? Won't take you long to save up and a $10k vehicle that you keep in good shape won't lose but a few k over that period of time.

Plenty of people make good money and don't drive brand new vehicles. They are usually the people retiring earlier and with more money later on.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
98411 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Because I'm not going to do one of those 0 down deals and pay a ridiculous note every month.


Why not if you qualify for good interest rates? I just financed 100% at 1.99% through a credit union, if they want to give me money at 1.99% I'm gonna pay it back as slow as I can
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:30 pm to
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If you're in this great of shape financially that you're only expenses are rent and a vehicle, why not pay $10k cash for a vehicle then sell it when you save up the cash for something nicer? Won't take you long to save up and a $10k vehicle that you keep in good shape won't lose but a few k over that period of time.


Because I only have 25 days.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Why not if you qualify for good interest rates? I just financed 100% at 1.99% through a credit union, if they want to give me money at 1.99% I'm gonna pay it back as slow as I can


This. When we bought my wife's car at 0%, the finance guy asked if we wanted to put anything down along with the trade. I was like do I have to? He said no, and then I laughed on the inside. When on earth would I take away cash reserves for no cost money. (And yes, I got a good enough deal on top of the 0% that it is no cost money )
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3893 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:32 pm to
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That spreadsheet only really works if you plan to get rid of the vehicle purchased at the end of the lease term.

It's just a comparison term to determine the value at a common time. Again, assumption is you want a new vehicle and only decision is lease vs buy (meaning you will change cars often regardless of finance option). However, I also mentioned you can extend it all the same to a 5 year lease, or two consecutive 3 year leases vs 6 year ownership. I've done it.

What most people don't realize is that when you finance, you're paying for the full value of the vehicle, with tax and interest, over the finance term. That vehicle will still depreciate and be worth much less than you bought it for. You will never come out "ahead" on a new vehicle.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5954 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Because I only have 25 days.


25 days to buy a vehicle? I gotta be misunderstanding you because if you can't find a $10k vehicle worth buying, you ain't lookin'.
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