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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted by TROCKS50
Member since Jan 2013
1111 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:24 pm
How is the San Diego airport able to function with only a single runway?

Seems like that would be a logistical nightmare.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:28 pm to
It’s much easier when all flights are outbound full of people fleeing democrat policies in California.
Posted by jacost7
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2007
223 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:35 pm to
There aren’t as many gates as a bigger airport and the gates are leased to individual airlines. Those airlines work the times for the gates so theoretically the gate is open when the next plane for that gate lands. They also run slots into the busy airports with ATC to not overwhelm the system.
Posted by TROCKS50
Member since Jan 2013
1111 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:21 pm to
Thanks.

San Diego airport has 15 more gates than New Orleans (MSY) and handles about 3,000,000 more passengers a year.

MSY has 2 runways.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65714 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

How is the San Diego airport able to function with only a single runway?
Eery thing you loathe about New Ahwleans is …..
Posted by Zapps4Life
Houston
Member since May 2016
286 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:41 pm to
Favorable weather nearly year-round and likely a prevailing wind direction that does not alter much certainly helps…
Posted by Zapps4Life
Houston
Member since May 2016
286 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:49 pm to
Wind Rose for San Diego Intl Airport:

Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7316 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:08 am to
It’s cool coming in next to downtown SD when flying in. It’s equally cool flying out over the Pacific. I’m sure the view is even better for the flight crew.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20509 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:23 am to
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It’s cool coming in next to downtown SD when flying in.


The landing always freaks me out tbh. I feel like the winds always throw the plane out of alignment causing corrections to be made.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:39 am to
quote:

MSY has 2 runways.


Only one is active at a time based on wind direction.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71471 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:42 am to
In boot we had to yell at the planes. I miss SD and southern cal.
Posted by TROCKS50
Member since Jan 2013
1111 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:46 am to
What happens at MSY when the British Airways 787 comes in from London then?

Is it capable of landing on the 7,000 foot North South runway versus the 10,000 foot east-west runway.

I would presume this airplane must use the east-west runway or face diversion?
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8517 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:38 am to
quote:

MSY has 2 runways.


Not parallel, so it is not like you are using 2 all of the time.
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 2:12 am to
Re British Air 787, he landed on East-West runway when all other incoming flights were using the North-South runway. Guess he wanted the extra 3,000 or so feet.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 2:13 am
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2086 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 2:47 am to
quote:

Only one is active at a time based on wind direction.


Not true. Both can be and are used for landing at the same time during good weather conditions.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 2:49 am
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8517 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:03 am to
quote:

Not true. Both can be and are used for landing at the same time during good weather conditions.


Not typical. You can use both runways at MSY. You have non intersecting perpendicular runways. Sure if the wind is calm, during light traffic where it would be more advantageous to the pilot and more efficient for the controller than yeah you can use the non active runway. When you got normal operations with multiple aircraft landing and departing you will feed everything into the active runway especially if you are landing/departing 11.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 3:04 am
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2086 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:19 am to
Landing/departing 11 isn’t generally used unless it’s extremely windy out of the east, or 2/20 is closed. This is because of noise abatement for 11 departures.

Landing 11/2, departing 2……or Landing 11/20 departing 20, based off wind and VFR conditions, are the two most practical configs.

Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14106 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 4:18 am to
SAN also has a displaced runway threshold for 27, which means you have about 2000 feet less to work with for landing.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5166 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 4:23 am to
quote:

ATC controllers

Wouldn’t this be air traffic controller controllers?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65714 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 5:15 am to
quote:

Wouldn’t this be air traffic controller controllers?
Those are the bosses of ATCs.

Or SOs?

The several times I flew on the BA NS flights to/from LHR, it took off and landed to and from the BR direction on the East/West runway.
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