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Question about the Dune books.

Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:24 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:24 am
In God Emperor of Dune, The Tleilaxu repeatedly tried to kill Leto. Then in Heretics of Dune, they worshiped him.

How did they change?

Also, Duncan goes from some superfast dude that scares the Bene Gesserit to one that can be killed even by the slowest and fattest one in Chapterhouse.

How come Teg's ability to foresee danger didn't appear in the final battle in Chapterhouse?
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:25 am to
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Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:25 am to
Omg I read it 30 years ago so I'm no help
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Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:28 am to
quote:


How did they change?

Also, Duncan goes from some superfast dude that scares the Bene Gesserit to one that can be killed even by the slowest and fattest one in Chapterhouse.

How come Teg's ability to foresee danger didn't appear in the final battle in Chapterhouse?


I'm not going to do your homework for you.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:28 am to
Didn't his kid write chapterhouse?

Best one is the first one and the rest kinda suck imo
Posted by kilo1234
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:28 am to
WTF is this nerd shite?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:31 am to
Dune sequels
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:32 am to
Take this shite to the Gay Board
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:34 am to
I thought the third one was pretty good.

Frank wrote the sixth one but he was sick at the time. You can tell. Little action in the book. A lot of thinking by the main characters.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:55 am to
His reign stifled civilization by banning space travel, but after his death they came to understand his wisdom behind that action since it spurred on a new era, IIRC.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

In God Emperor of Dune, The Tleilaxu repeatedly tried to kill Leto. Then in Heretics of Dune, they worshiped him.

How did they change?


A lot of time has passed. Like a few thousand years. IIRC between those periods the Tleilaxu have invented the synthetic spice, and they are in a position of power. People are more easily able to see the prophetic Golden Path, rather than being in the midst of Leto the Tyrant.
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Also, Duncan goes from some superfast dude that scares the Bene Gesserit to one that can be killed even by the slowest and fattest one in Chapterhouse.


I don't remember the specific situation you are talking about.

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How come Teg's ability to foresee danger didn't appear in the final battle in Chapterhouse?




I believe there were no-ships involved in this, although the details are also fairly vague at this point.

I need to do a re read. I re read Dune and Dune Messiah recently. I might go back to the others sometime soon.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 10:07 am to
wish Frank had better explained the scattering. I've yet to read the post Frank novels. I refuse to do so.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 10:19 am to
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I've yet to read the post Frank novels. I refuse to do so.


I read them. They suck. Like they suck really, really, really bad. It is claimed that they are based off of manuscripts and notes found on a floppy for Dune 7, but I don't believe it at all. It just ties the original series into all the other crap that Brian added onto his father's work. The story telling is atrocious and full of plot holes. It's simply stupid. And even worse it fricks up the philosophical message and symbolism of the rest of the original series. One is left wondering if Brian even halfway understood some of the subtext of his father's work.

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wish Frank had better explained the scattering.


I think more explanation would have come if he were able to finish the series. As it is I think the simple idea is just that after being suppressed for so long people fled making the footprint of humanity in the universe grow exponentially to beyond measure making it so that humanity could no longer be put under the rule of a single tyrant ever again or be subject some sort of mass kill off event.
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