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re: Pulmonologist Dr. JJ Rajter having good success with Ivermectin for Covid

Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:55 pm to
Ok but what caused them to try it? Sorry — I’m always curious as to how people think to try things in times like this.
Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Ok but what caused them to try it? Sorry — I’m always curious as to how people think to try things in times like this.


There had been some in vitro experiments with HIV and influenza

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This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21127 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:01 pm to
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Don’t know why this isn’t getting more attention

Half the country is pushing an incredibly strong narrative that a different drug works
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:10 pm to
In his cases it was “ok I am about to have to put this patient on a ventilator that didn’t respond to Hydroxychloroquine. I know the odds aren’t great once we get to the ventilator so might as well try the medicine that worked in vitro.” Was basically a Hail Mary. That is how things happen sometimes.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:22 pm to
If Hydroxychloroquine is going to work when should it start? We have a resident at the nursing home (I’m working at home but seeing her emr) and her meds order runs out tomorrow. If she’s not better what’s their next step?
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:22 pm to
It sounding more & more like the hydroxychloroquine regimen is very effective PRIOR TO the "cytokine storm" where your body is sending a shitload of help, but is actually flooding the lungs, causing respiratory distress/failure, thus requiring intubation and will not respond to hydroxychloroquine/z-pack regimen. A Touro ICU nurse told me the same thing.

This MD is saying Ivermectin appears effective in the middle stage just as that respiratory distress is starting to flare-up, which is great news as yet another weapon against corona.

Hopefully, there's another treatment we find for those already intubated. The more I hear, your chances of survival once you are on the ventilator is extremely low.
Posted by Permit
Stuart, FL
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:37 pm to
How is ivermectin given to the patient
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16309 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:51 pm to
IV

I was surprised to learn from the Touro ICU nurse, they are giving hydroxychloroquine & zithromax IV as well. When I've given those in the past, it was in pill form and was either swallowed by the patient or we crushed it/liquified it and put in through a gastric tube.
Posted by lgh
In your head
Member since Jan 2019
239 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
I wonder if it works IM? I have have a few bottles at home for cattle and dogs
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:30 am to
Hell it doesn’t have a lot of side effects so probably worth a try
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:40 am to
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Ok but what caused them to try it?

"The first company to find an effective treatment will be fricking PAID. Try everything we have a patent on to see if it kills this shite in a test tube and we'll go from there."

Profit is a strong motivator for innovation.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:43 am to
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How is ivermectin given to the patient


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