re: President Woodrow Wilson addressed Congress 100 years ago today

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The vote, which took place four days later, brought the United States into World War I.

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6 senators voted against the declaration of war. They hailed from Oregon, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Nebraska, Missouri, and Mississippi. 8 others refrained from voting, and the remaining 82 members voted in favor of the war.

Had America been more concern about neutering Germany rather than trading with them, Hitler would have never happened.

I agree it wasn't the common persons problem, but they built a war machine in 15 years because they were unchecked.

America, as well as allies and opposition, built military bases in Germany after WW2. That shite wasn't going to happen agian.

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A forgotten time when Presidents didn't unilaterally declare war.

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If only, but WW himself sent forces into Mexico. It was quite a quagmire and WW1 actually provided a useful way out of that shite.

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Ah yes, the Paris treaty was much more generous....said no one ever.


We fricking occupied Germany after WW2, something we should have done after WW1

Who represented Germany in Paris?

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And how many more troops would have died trying to accomplish this? The German army was still very deadly and very capable - still launching offensives in 1918. They may have been beaten down, but they weren't out of the war.

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And how many more troops would have died trying to accomplish this?

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Probably less than what died in ww2.

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If my aunt had a penis she'd be my uncle.

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Transphobic bigot!

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Probably less than what died in ww2.

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Yeah, 10 million men had already been killed. What's a million or two more?

/sarcasm

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You don't know what you are talking about. World War II happened precisely because the Allies were so harsh on Germany at Versailles. They had to pay for all the damages done by the war with no money to speak of. Their country was ripped apart by hyperinflation and revolution in the 4-5 years succeeding World War I. The harsh conditions set down by the Allies in the war's aftermath allowed for the rise of Hitler.

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So your contention is that the Treaty of Paris was softer than the Treaty of Versailles. Am I getting this right?

I'm not saying we needed to hit them harder financially, I'm saying we needed to control their government for a generation.

People don't understand why we setup puppet governments after wars. I think WW1 is an example of why. It may not be as clean, but it allows us to control them financially and militarily while giving them the air of autonomy.

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Six months after he won election on the slogan "He kept us out of war".

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Do you even Zimmerman Note, bro?

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Other than the hindsight of 2017, why would the Allies have done that?

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My entire premis was hindsight.

What would have happened if...

No one saw WW2 coming, well, no movement with substance