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re: Pre-Dawn Raid Results in Mobile Police Shooting Armed 16 year old

Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:41 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:41 am to
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So let's risk a shoot out at the Walmart store. What could go wrong?

If a sixteen year old points a gun at cops in his home, will he suddenly turn into a law abiding kid inside the store?

I'm not a fan of no knocks but the dealer won't have 10 pounds of drugs on himself at the Walmart. If you knock on their door and give then 5 minutes, all that fentanyl will be down the toilet.



So that would mean there was less fentanyl available and would probably result in the dealer being forced to answer to the supplier about where that shite went. The goal should not be arrests it should be keeping the public safe and preventing crimes. If the cops cause the dealer to flush the drugs they have prevented multiple crimes, job well done.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106224 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:42 am to
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Did I say that? No. Do cops frick shite up, I’m sure all the time. Just like doctors frick up and cost people their lives all the time. Airline pilots have screwed up and cost people their lives. You just giving needless examples of this can happen or that.


Difference is neither that pilot or that doctor has qualified immunity that protects them (and their pension) if they frick up. Same for their bosses who institute policies that put civilians and other cops at risk.

There’s no incentive for them to change those policies because it’s OUR money getting spent in settlements when things like this happen.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:42 am to
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You've uttered some dumb shite on this board before, but this may take the cake.


It's really not. The vast majority of conservatives absolutely love big government and their enforcers. You're just not smart enough to see it.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4436 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:44 am to
Same scenario happened with me. Had intel the person we were after was there. We breached the door announced ourselves cleared living room, moved to side room guy in the room was starting to lift a rifle. Two quick shots and it was over. Was not the guy we were after as he wasn’t there. Always wonder if he was going to fire but I wasn’t willing to find out. Every other time we did a raid they either ran or put their hands up. It’s an intense situation lotta commotion and I honestly feel situation reversed I’m going for my gun as well.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19099 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:45 am to
The state of Alabama needs a DOJ investigation but I don’t put any faith in that Gumps gonna Gump
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8207 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:46 am to
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The police have so many resources that they can arrest these guys when they go to Walmart and search their homes then.


I was with you until this nonsense. One step above, just shoot them in the leg nonsense.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:46 am to
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Why are you assuming the 16 year old kid was a thug?


I didn't assume, I made a statement of fact.

Now he's a dead thug.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23159 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:46 am to
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The lack of critical thinking in these posts is absurd.

The police were not looking for a couple dime bags.

You use Swat when there is a chance that the occupants are armed and dangerous


Lol. I promise you, from personal experience, EBRPSO will happily kick your door in with 10 fully armed and loaded deputies over "a couple dime bags." With not a single weapon ever in the house.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148336 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:47 am to
Why officers haven't pushed back against leadership in not being kosher with these types of raids when there are other options is beyond me.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5284 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:48 am to
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The vast majority of conservatives absolutely love big government and their enforcers


Just about everything that happened after 9/11 says you're correct.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12499 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:48 am to
Here is my statement of fact

You’re a piece of shite human being
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37990 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:48 am to
Maybe not but I'm not pulling a weapon on an officer for that charge either
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:48 am to
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Why officers haven't pushed back against leadership in not being kosher with these types of raids when there are other options is beyond me.


Because the guys that make the teams that execute raids like this are fully on board with it.

And everyone knows what happens to cops who step out of line.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:48 am to
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You’re a piece of shite human being


Ok, Karen.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12499 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:49 am to
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oogabooga68
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13852 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:49 am to
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A 16 year old got killed over what is legal in a quarter of the country and you think everything is all fine and dandy.


Is he even old enough to carry a gun? Alabama law says 18 for a pistol.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:51 am to
Haha...ok, Karen...
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1838 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:51 am to
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I was with you until this nonsense. One step above, just shoot them in the leg nonsense.


Obviously not while he is in Walmart, how about when he gets in his car in the driveway?

Did you know they could have arrested David Koresh the day before and prevented all those kids dying at Waco?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:52 am to
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Is he even old enough to carry a gun?


Now he won't be able to finish High School and pursue a College degree....
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12499 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:52 am to
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Is he even old enough to carry a gun? Alabama law says 18 for a pistol.


He was in his own home. Not walking around town. Is it your opinion that someone under the age of 18 shouldn’t be allowed to be in possession of a firearm in their own home when they could reasonably suspect someone is breaking and entering?
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