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re: Potential Service Dog Regulations in LA Opposed by Many

Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by armytiger16
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:28 pm to
That's a pretty cool use of service dog. It's too bad Danes don't live longer.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:28 pm to
Sure, but blind people can make the case that they absolutely need them. The diabetes and PTSD shite is a retarded excuse for bringing your dog with you everywhere- totally precautionary and easily substituted by non-canine means.


Snowflakes ruining good things for everyone.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:30 pm to
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It's too bad Danes don't live longer.


I thought that same thought. That is a gorgeous Dane as well.


There is another video...he won some best dog award and was treated to a "best dog day ever"
LINK
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Lucky_Dog
Member since May 2016
785 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:31 pm to
There are better service dogs walking across LSU's campus.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:33 pm to
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PTSD shite


So you think PTSD is not real?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:37 pm to
Oh it's real, I don't think having it justifies a person bringing a dog with them in public areas where a dog would otherwise not be permitted.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:38 pm to
Are many people really abusing this though? I've only ever read about this on the internet with the "emotional support service dogs." I've never actually seen this in real life.

I think that I'd rather let a few assholes get away with something a little ridiculous, but probably generally harmless, than harass legitimately disabled people and have them justify their condition everywhere they go.

Disclaimer: I don't know the specific language of whatever this thing is or how it would be enacted. I do know that a lot of ridiculous shite goes in front of our legislature and some of it actually passes.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:41 pm to
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Oh it's real, I don't think having it justifies a person bringing a dog with them in public areas where a dog would otherwise not be permitted.


If a dog helps someone with PTSD interact normally in public...I'm ok with that.


ETA: I would imagine it is those public areas where the dog may be needed the most by someone with PTSD.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:45 pm to
To be fair Service dogs are complete and utter BS. I got mad at the wife for always making me waste $300+/week to board our dog when we traveled so the breeder we got him from gave us her psychologist friend and got us a service dog approval and now the dog travels for free with us everywhere we go. Its a 2 lb dog its hardly a service dog and the whole things a joke but no complaints from me I save $1500+ a year in dog boarding now
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:46 pm to
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If a dog helps someone with PTSD interact normally in public...I'm ok with that.


ETA: I would imagine it is those public areas where the dog may be needed the most by someone with PTSD.



The solution is simple- if a person is too emotionally unstable to be in a certain place without a dog, they should not be there at all, period.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12229 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:47 pm to
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To be fair Service dogs are complete and utter BS.


That could not be further from the truth.

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I got mad at the wife for always making me waste $300+/week to board our dog when we traveled so the breeder we got him from gave us her psychologist friend and got us a service dog approval and now the dog travels for free with us everywhere we go. Its a 2 lb dog its hardly a service dog and the whole things a joke but no complaints from me I save $1500+ a year in dog boarding now



You are gaming the system and are a piece of shite for breaking the law a-hole.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:48 pm to
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$300+/week to board our dog


You are the idiot spending this much money to board...one dog that weighs 2 lbs
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 4:48 pm to
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That could not be further from the truth.



yes it could


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breaking the law a-hole.



no he isn't
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6565 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:26 pm to
Yes. A licensed service dog should wear the vest that shows what they are. My parents had a bullmastiff that was a service dog.

All these people that walk around with "service" dogs aren't really service dogs and just want to take them everywhere.

Used to have a rather large female come to the office with her chihuahua and said it was a service dog.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:34 pm to
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Last week some woman came up to the peds floor to visit her nephew in the hospital. CARRYING A FREAKING CHIHUAHUA in her hands. We had to tell her no dogs allowed and she quickly says "Oh he's my service dog, I need him as my emotional companion."


Not a service dog, emotional support animals are not covered by the ADA. You can kick the dog out quick fast unless that hospital has its own rules about ESA dogs. Service dogs perform a particular service for a true disability, such as seeing eye dogs.

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PTSD interact normally in public...I'm ok with that.


Also not a service dog, perfectly fine to restrict access to these as well.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:43 pm to
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Not a service dog, emotional support animals are not covered by the ADA. You can kick the dog out quick fast unless that hospital has its own rules about ESA dogs. Service dogs perform a particular service for a true disability, such as seeing eye dogs.


Well I was the charge nurse that night and we already had a lot of other stuff going on on the floor. I didn't have time to research hospital policy about service/emotional dogs and didn't have the time or the energy to deal with some woman filing a complaint against me. I allowed the dog up but told the woman another family member had to hold the dog outside of the patient's room and since it was already 11 pm at night..the aunt could only visit for a few minutes and then needed to leave.


The entire family (except for the child)was really trashy to begin with and had been constantly annoying staff with frivolous requests that had nothing to do with the actual child as the patient and their care.

We had been running around like crazy that night cause we had some other kids that were really sick and needed our urgent attention. I heard the doorbell go off(we are a locked unit and approve any visitors via a camera outside the unit). Just remember seeing that crazy woman with her dog at 11 pm and thinking "you have to be fricking kidding me"
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:50 pm to
LoL

Yeah those ESA people try to game the system a lot.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77992 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 6:25 pm to
99% of service animals are utter bullshite.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74878 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 6:51 pm to
I feel like the service dog thing is out of control. Like the guy who brings a dog to the Dome because he has PTSD, sorry if your PTSD is so bad you need a dog to calm your nerves, maybe being around 70,000 screaming people isn't the best place for you.

If you are blind or have seizures or something that requires a dog, then fine. If you need a dog to make you feel better, that's not a service dog, that's a typical pet.
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