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re: Police released video of the fatal shooting of unarmed black man in Oklahoma

Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6149 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Got a source for that? I haven't seen that anywhere. Granted, if it was just announced it may be coming, but there have been quite a few fallacies reported in the name of "breaking news" as people rush to be the first to break it.



The Tulsa PD and Tulsa World. LOL. Yeah, I made it up.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45701 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

While true, the cops don't know why this guy is reaching into this car that "might blowup". Why is the car going to blow up? Why is this man reaching into a car if he knows it might blow up?


Reaching into a window that was up with blood splattered across it?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Got a source for that?


LINK
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:03 pm to
If only it where a stretch. The celebratory manner in which the PCP discovery was brought into the conversation tells you what you need to know.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Did the helicopter know what the commands were?



no thats what I dont understand.....whatever the pilot in the helo was narrating has nothing to do what was going on on the ground
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6149 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:


PCP=justified shooting

That's it. Now don't


Everyone is saying it doesn't justify the shooting but does explain some odd things about the situation. Do you actually comprehend anything other people say that have opinions that might differ from your own?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Did the helicopter know what the commands were?



Where did you get that from?
Came from another cop. LINK
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39438 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Reaching into a window that was up with blood splattered across it?


Was the window up? Has that been confirmed? What I've seen, its hard to tell.

That doesn't change the fact that this man is going to a car that was said to possibly blow up, ignoring orders. So, as a cop, what are you supposed to think he is doing?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71474 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:05 pm to
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PCP=justified shooting

Definitely doesn't justify it, but it will be something to consider during he thorough investigation.

Should there be some sort of rule that if you can't fully comply.. for whatever reason.. then they will first detain you.. for the safety of both? I don't know if I agree with that.. but at least they would still be alive? Again, I am just grasping.. and even admitting to being ridiculous.

I still want to know if they can make a human-like net for these situations. Or go all cowboy and lasso these individuals backing away.

I hate that it has come to this.. that police are probably more nervous, on edge, or more reactionary in general than ever.. but it is part of their job. I just want smarter/better decision making officers.. but that's an ideal want. I am at least pleased with the body cameras becoming more prevalent. Helps keep both sides accountable.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39438 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:05 pm to
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Where did you get that from?
Came from another cop. LINK



Ohhhhh. The quote you had kind of read like it was audio of a cop in the helicopter saying he was following orders.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64774 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:06 pm to
ohh snap. I called it again. Its is scary how quick I can guess what is going on in these videos.

dude was drugged up and wouldn't comply. told yall he was reaching for a newport.
Posted by LSUBham
On the wagon.
Member since Dec 2007
25566 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:07 pm to
Dude, way to jump to conclusions. I didn't say you made it up. I meant that I've seen media frick shite up on the regular in their rush to break a story, especially now that they all tweet.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137951 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

If only it where a stretch. The celebratory manner in which the PCP discovery was brought into the conversation tells you what you need to know.

The perpetually offended shall, unfortunately, inherit the earth.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:07 pm to
Police have several non lethal alternatives to use. In this situation, the female cop did not allow for them to be used.
Posted by LSUBham
On the wagon.
Member since Dec 2007
25566 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

tgrbaitn08


Thanks.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6149 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

I meant that I've seen media frick shite up on the regular in their rush to break a story, especially now that they all tweet.



Got it. Try to stay on topic. That's another subject for another day.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64774 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Police have several non lethal alternatives to use. In this situation, the drugged up man rushed their decision making.


Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:10 pm to
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The celebratory manner in which the PCP discovery was brought into the conversation tells you what you need to know.




frick dude,i celebrated. All of us that were saying he wasn't just walking with his hands up and got ruthlessly murdered by the Police are perfectly vindicated.

Same with Michael Brown
And when details come out about Alton Sterling i'm going to be doing the fricking victory dance in your face as well.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21689 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:10 pm to
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what do you and Roger believe people should do?


Realize they have no rights. I mean let's drop the pretense that most people have any right against illegal search, or seizure, self-incrimination, or that they have any permanent interest in the property they own. Also, we should admit that people that engage in non life threatening situations are killed at the discretion of law enforcement for disobedience.

Lastly, that it's in their best interest do everything a cop tells you or you could be killed.

Basically what we agreed to before about acting as if every time you get pulled over, treat it as if you're being held up at gunpoint.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39438 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Police have several non lethal alternatives to use. In this situation, the female cop did not allow for them to be used.



Non lethal methods like verbal commands and a taser?
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