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Police/Criminal law question
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:16 pm
Person hires handyman to do work around his home. In the course of the work, several valuable items disappear. Handyman is the only person other than the homeowner who has been around the house during this time. Handyman denies taking the items. Homeowner contacts police who come and take a report. All they say is "we'll look on the internet and see if he tries to sell anything." Sounds like nothing is going to come of this. Would engaging a private investigator be an angle worth pursuing? How about a civil suit?
Not a hypothetical question. This is an ongoing situation with some friends of ours.
Not a hypothetical question. This is an ongoing situation with some friends of ours.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:17 pm to Jim Rockford
No evidence or anything you have to be able to pursue remedy.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:20 pm to Jim Rockford
Even if the PI locates the shite and you can tie the handyman to the shite in its present location online or a pawn shop, the DA is still going to have to give a frick and unless the handyman has something to lose, the DA has got bigger fish to fry. There is a very thin veil of civilization right now.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:20 pm to Jim Rockford
While he probably did it, you have no evidence to back any claim.
This is why it blows my mind people let maids, handymen, etc. in their home without supervision. These people are 90% addicts and can’t do any other job. They’re wired to steal.
This is why it blows my mind people let maids, handymen, etc. in their home without supervision. These people are 90% addicts and can’t do any other job. They’re wired to steal.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:20 pm to 225Tyga
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No evidence or anything you have to be able to pursue remedy.
English por favor
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:22 pm to SidetrackSilvera
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Even if the PI locates the shite and you can tie the handyman to the shite in its present location online or a pawn shop, the DA is still going to have to give a frick and unless the handyman has something to lose, the DA has got bigger fish to fry. There is a very thin veil of civilization right now.
They mostly would just like to get their stuff back. A lot of it has sentimental value.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:24 pm to Jim Rockford
Should have asked your husband to do the work.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:31 pm to SidetrackSilvera
They could file a civil claim to get their stuff back e.g. replevin/ conversion
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:35 pm to Jim Rockford
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How about a civil suit?
OK, Matlock
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:35 pm to Jim Rockford
They could always set up an elaborate plot to pseudo-anonymously torment the handyman with a series of escalating, horrific and terrifying near-death and/or harmful scenarios while leaving untraceable clues indicating to the handyman that they know he took the shite and want it back. Don't leave actual evidence that it was the neighbors responsible for the scheme. He'll first seek protection on his own, and then turn to the police, but no one will believe the handyman. After weeks of torment, he'll go mad and either return the Precious Moments figurines or challenge the neighbors in open combat.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:35 pm to Jim Rockford
Give up.
I had a Sig stolen out of my truck in Atlanta (my fault) 20 years ago. I reported it. I was shocked when APD called me about a year later asking if "I'd found the gun." LOL. Was that my job?
What exactly where you idiots doing, again?
Not sure what state you're in, (I am not a lawyer), but information generated by a PI may not be admissible anyway.
What is the value of what disappeared? I'm not feeling felony levels of theft based on the description, but your only chance for attention may be if you hit 10k+.
I had a Sig stolen out of my truck in Atlanta (my fault) 20 years ago. I reported it. I was shocked when APD called me about a year later asking if "I'd found the gun." LOL. Was that my job?
What exactly where you idiots doing, again?
Not sure what state you're in, (I am not a lawyer), but information generated by a PI may not be admissible anyway.
What is the value of what disappeared? I'm not feeling felony levels of theft based on the description, but your only chance for attention may be if you hit 10k+.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:41 pm to LemmyLives
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What is the value of what disappeared? I'm not feeling felony levels of theft based on the description, but your only chance for attention may be if you hit 10k+.
Possibly. Two sets of silverware, antique clock, jewelry, gold and silver coins.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:42 pm to LemmyLives
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I had a Sig stolen out of my truck in Atlanta (my fault) 20 years ago. I reported it. I was shocked when APD called me about a year later asking if "I'd found the gun." LOL. Was that my job?
They have to do this because it was entered into NCIC. The system gets audited yearly and inquiries have to be made to make sure it’s still stolen. You’d be surprised at how many are returned or weren’t stolen and just misplaced and never reported.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:45 pm to Jim Rockford
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They mostly would just like to get their stuff back. A lot of it has sentimental value.
Have they considered hiring a couple of guys to beat the dogshit out of the handyman? (Are they sure their reprobate grandchild didn't take the stolen items?)
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:46 pm to White Roach
I offered to do it but they nixed that. Their only child lives out of state and was not around during this time.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:50 pm to Jim Rockford
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Two sets of silverware, antique clock, jewelry, gold and silver coins
My suspicion is that because there is value to the objects that is based on a lot of subjectiveness, you probably won't gain traction. Envision interviews like this, "But how do you know the clock was worth $3k? I found one on eBay for $400!
Any lawyers or insurance agents, please weigh in. If you had the items registered with your homeowners insurance, you may have something. If not, you're probably out of luck.
You could also call the contactor back, and then just not pay him, lol.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:55 pm to LemmyLives
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You could also call the contactor back, and then just not pay him, lol.
After accusing him of theft? Good luck.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:58 pm to LemmyLives
Or a different approach might be to hire the handyman again to clean the gutters. Push over ladder, beat with heavy object. Repeat as necessary until he realizes the error of his ways.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:58 pm to Dirt Booger
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The system gets audited yearly and inquiries have to be made to make sure it’s still stolen. You’d be surprised at how many are returned or weren’t stolen and just misplaced and never reported.
I don't doubt it, and it's still depressing how the system doesn't work.
I know plenty of people lose daddy's gun, etc., but nobody misplaces a P2340. I didn't like .40S&W anyway. frick it.
The bigger problem was actually that they stole the loyalty cards out of my truck, which had my address and that of my female roommate on it. .40 sucks that much, that was my concern.
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