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Pneumococcal vaccines: are they ineffective against Covid 19?

Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:08 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:08 pm
If the major concern is complications resulting in pneumonia, why aren’t we utilizing Pneumococcal vaccines as a preventive measure? I don’t know the answer, just curious?
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26340 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:09 pm to
We probably don’t have any.

If I’ve learned anything from this fiasco it’s that apparently our healthcare industry as a whole has pretty much nothing stockpiled for an emergency.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14292 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:15 pm to
I don't think any vaccines are 100% effective. That coupled with pneumonia being a very dangerous and fast progressing disease
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45583 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:16 pm to
I don’t know the answer but I’m pretty sure most nursing homes give flu & pneumonia vaccine
My mom had to sign something so that my Grandpa could get his

It would be interesting to see if the people in Washington had it
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:17 pm to
There won’t be a covid 19 vaccine for years. Theoretically, couldn’t you immunize the herd from the most serious complication proactively?
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:20 pm to
Vaccines require the exact virus to allow the immune system to build specific antibodies. The specific antigen is required.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4705 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:28 pm to
Pneumovax and prevnar are the 2 pneumonia vaccines. They provide immunity from bacterial pneumonia caused by streptococcus pneumoniae however it takes time for the vaccines to work and they have to be given one year apart from each other.

It’s also possible to acquire viral pneumonia or even fungal but there are no vaccines that cover viral or fungal pneumonia.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:29 pm to
Are you suggesting that covid 19 results in a form a pneumonia that the current vaccines can’t prevent. I’m not talking about vaccinating against covid itself
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
2878 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

major concern is complications resulting in pneumonia, why aren’t we utilizing Pneumococcal vaccines as a preventive measure

So you're asking why we dont use a bacterial vaccine for a novel viral infection

quote:

I don’t know the answer,
Clearly
Posted by Tiger Tom
Monroe
Member since Sep 2006
125 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:39 pm to
Pneumococcal vaccine protects against strep pneumococcal bacteria

COVID -19 is viral

Therefore no help
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:23 pm to
Is this a trick question? “Pneumonia” is a condition caused by a wide variety of bacteria and viruses. The vaccination inoculates the recipient against a couple of the typical causes of the condition. No one knew what this virus was when this year’s pneumonia vaccines were being developed.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40278 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:25 pm to
Vast majority aren’t dying because of a secondary bacterial pneumonia such as pneumococcus
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:07 pm to
Correct - vaccines are basically antigen - antibody generating dead virus’s. Can’t make you sick but do prepare your body
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