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Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:30 am to Topwater Trout
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how much more training did he need to be able to fly alone or with passengers?
He had almost 140 hours of flight time logged. That’s more than 3x what’s needed to take your checkride. But this asshat didn’t even hold a medical certificate, which is a pre-req for soloing. He had no intention to take a checkride and be legal it seems.
I wanna know what his CFI has to say.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:33 am to jcaz
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He had almost 140 hours of flight time logged.
that's usually a indication of a student who wants to fly his own aircraft but doesn't want to put in the work, especially ground school and home study, to learn the course
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:37 am to Gris Gris
I'm in the aviation world avidly, and met someone the other day with a really nice fixed wing cherokee 6 (suburban of the sky) got to talking about him and his experience, and the airplane setup. He could hardly tell me about some of the avionics inside the airplane, and basic detailed info that an owner should know about it. I ran his name in the FAA registry, and found he only had a student pilot ticket. He owns his own traffic control contracting business, making a grip of money through state contracts, and other dealings. He was transporting pax, and flying around as if he was all good with nothing more than a solo under his belt. Even his daughter told me she likes flying with him "even though I probably shouldnt tell you", so they know he's illegal. Stupid, and arrogant. I'm sure there are plenty just like these guys who have the money, and feel they're above the law. I hope he gets ramp checked before he gets himself into a similar situation.
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:38 am to stout
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Savant had logged about 139 hours of flight time, all in R-44 helicopters, including 15 hours at night, according to investigators.
You only need 40 hours to get your PPL. What an absolute tragedy for his wife and child who lost their life because of his recklessness.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:41 am to 777Tiger
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that's usually a indication of a student who wants to fly his own aircraft but doesn't want to put in the work
Yep. Egos with money but no actual interest in the meat and potatoes of flying. Usually they wash out before killing anyone though.
The general public doesn’t realize that ramp checks are the only real thing stopping them from getting caught but they are so rare.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:48 am to CalCajun
According to his Facebook page, he took his first solo flight in early April.
Also, his mother-in-law took the photo of the helicopter that is his cover photo.
Also, his mother-in-law took the photo of the helicopter that is his cover photo.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:18 am to SWLA92
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There was videos of him flying other people around the area the last few months. i also saw someone thank him for flying them around to see the capitol one building explosion.
This is just unreal. The lack of consideration for anyone else is astounding.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:20 am to jizzle6609
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The lack of consideration for anyone else is astounding.
ego and arrogance was off the charts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:20 am to stout
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Reading the summary in the news article seems like disorientation to me much like the pilot in the Kobe situation flying in the fog but I didn't read the full report which is linked in my OP
The weather that night would not have been a problem for a licensed helicopter aviator.
Thankfully he did not crash in a populate area.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:01 am to CalCajun
I'm not in the aviation world. Who are the regulatory bodies, and what tools do they have to keep unlicensed pilots grounded until they have all of their proper certifications? Is it the same as an unlicensed driver that can drive all they want without consequence unless a cop would have reason to pull them over? That doesn't seem like that would be the case.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:05 am to facher08
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Is it the same as an unlicensed driver that can drive all they want without consequence unless a cop would have reason to pull them over?
sort of like that in the civilian world, if the dude kept the chopper at his house and had just gotten his student pilot certificate I wonder if it ever dawned on his instructor how the helicopter got to the airport for their scheduled flight lessons?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:31 am to 777Tiger
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his student pilot certificate
I'm still wondering how he obtained a student pilot license without a medical certificate as noted in the Prelim Report. It is asked along with the name of the Medical Examiner right there on the Airman Certificate Application form.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:01 pm to Traveler
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The weather that night would not have been a problem for a licensed helicopter aviator.
Quite true, but poor weather is not a requirement for spatial disorientation. Night unaided visual references are often difficult without a lot of experience.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:04 pm to facher08
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I'm not in the aviation world. Who are the regulatory bodies, and what tools do they have to keep unlicensed pilots grounded until they have all of their proper certifications
It's usually a local FSDO (flight standards district office) They are the local FAA agency. Unless someone reports it, it can go unfound forever unless they are ramp checked randomly by some one out of the FAA FSDO office.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:10 pm to Traveler
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:11 pm to jcaz
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checkride
what is this?
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medical certificate
what is this...a physical?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:34 pm to Topwater Trout
Checkride is a practical exam required to get your pilot certificate and the privileges that comes with it (passengers).
The FAA has a network of designated pilot examiners who go up on a flight with you and you perform maneuvers and are quizzed according to a standardized requirement.
A medical certificate is a physical and review of past medical history to make sure you won’t have a stroke or heart attack anytime soon. Assuming you don’t have major medical issues like depression, heart disease, cancer, or diabetes you can walk out the doctor office with one.
The FAA has a network of designated pilot examiners who go up on a flight with you and you perform maneuvers and are quizzed according to a standardized requirement.
A medical certificate is a physical and review of past medical history to make sure you won’t have a stroke or heart attack anytime soon. Assuming you don’t have major medical issues like depression, heart disease, cancer, or diabetes you can walk out the doctor office with one.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:47 pm to jcaz
I was at a high school baseball and one of the dad's of a player flew in for the game
Everyone couldn't believe it
Everyone couldn't believe it
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:51 pm to jcaz
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Checkride is a practical exam required to get your pilot certificate and the privileges that comes with it (passengers).
what would be the reason he wouldn't have done this in your opinion? is it cost? it seems like he would have wanted to do this ASAP
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