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Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:06 am to Wtodd
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And if you look at their actions prior to June 1941, they were just as bad as the Germans.
Thus my statement
Exactly. Yes, officially the Soviets were our ally in WWII. But they were no better than the Germans, and in many ways worse.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:08 am to TT9
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Stalin killed 30 million more jews than did Hitler. Great allie
Are you under the impression that 36 million Jews were killed during the Stalin and Hitler's time?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:08 am to Darth_Vader
They also lost more people in that war than all other nations combined. They weren't perfect. They were horrible. Part of it is their culture. See their war with Napoleon. But they helped beat Germans.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:11 am to RedRifle
Hmmmm...not a whole lot of diversity in those photos.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:12 am to RedRifle
Never have understood the reason for trotting all these soldiers and war equipment through the streets in a big parade. I guess it's to flex their muscles domestically and internationally. It just seems odd to me. I can't imagine this type of display on Pennsylvania Ave.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:15 am to bengalbait
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Never have understood the reason for trotting all these soldiers and war equipment through the streets in a big parade. I guess it's to flex their muscles domestically and internationally. It just seems odd to me. I can't imagine this type of display on Pennsylvania Ave
It a very old tradition in Europe, especially Russia. The Germans use to be the masters at it though dating back to Prussian days.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:18 am to bengalbait
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Never have understood the reason for trotting all these soldiers and war equipment through the streets in a big parade. I guess it's to flex their muscles domestically and internationally. It just seems odd to me. I can't imagine this type of display on Pennsylvania Ave.
Every country does this. It's a morale thing. Jingoistic but you got to give the people something to be proud about.
Couldn't find a recent German one
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:18 am to TT9
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Stalin killed 30 million more jews than did Hitler.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:18 am to bengalbait
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Never have understood the reason for trotting all these soldiers and war equipment through the streets in a big parade. I guess it's to flex their muscles domestically and internationally. It just seems odd to me. I can't imagine this type of display on Pennsylvania Ave.
I know, right?
We'd never have overt displays of military pride in our Nation's capital.
It's just such a strange concept.
Definitely not something you'd see here. Only in Europe and Russia in particular.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:19 am to bengalbait
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Never have understood the reason for trotting all these soldiers and war equipment through the streets in a big parade. I guess it's to flex their muscles domestically and internationally. It just seems odd to me. I can't imagine this type of display on Pennsylvania Ave.
I personally would love it if there were a combined forces parade in DC. Think about it. Parade down Constitution Ave with an Airshow over the National Mall to follow. Tie a couple frigates and submarines up along the Potomac... As a military tech fan, I'd fly to DC to see it. It would be a huge boon to the DC economy as well.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:21 am to Darth_Vader
For everyone hating on the Russians, they've invited us to join in their V-Day parades before:
US military personnel march along Red Square during a military parade dress rehearsal in Moscow May 6, 2010.[Photo/Agencies]
US military personnel march along Red Square during a military parade dress rehearsal in Moscow May 6, 2010.[Photo/Agencies]
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:21 am to RedRifle
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they've invited us to join in their V-Day parades before:
I never knew that. Very interesting.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:22 am to Mo Jeaux
Those are hardly the same. I've never seen a parade where there were hundreds of soldiers and tanks and AA trailers marching past a sitting US President. To me it's more like we know our armed services are bad arse and we don't need to show it off.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:22 am to Tigeralum2008
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I personally would love it if there were a combined forces parade in DC. Think about it. Parade down Constitution Ave with an Airshow over the National Mall to follow. Tie a couple frigates and submarines up along the Potomac... As a military tech fan, I'd fly to DC to see it. It would be a huge boon to the DC economy as well.
The biggest thing DC has is Rolling Thunder
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:24 am to Mo Jeaux
I think he meant the scope and scale of this parade. Yeah, we have 4th of July Parades and other military related holiday parades. But they do it on a whole other scale. Imagine having a parade down Pennsylvania Ave consisting of and entire armored division. That's what they're doing in Russia. In fact, they've got an entire motorized rifle division in their army who's main job is things like this. They're called the Taman Guards
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:26 am to bengalbait
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Those are hardly the same.
Yes, yes, I know. The others are always different, we'd never do things like they do, etc.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:26 am to bengalbait
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Never have understood the reason for trotting all these soldiers and war equipment through the streets in a big parade
It's a dick measuring contest
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:49 am to RedRifle
I really gotta get over there
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:54 am to Darth_Vader
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And if you look at their actions prior to June 1941, they were just as bad as the Germans.
That's all fine and dandy, but without their help pushing from the eastern front, we could have lost the war, or at the very least, it would have been extended YEARS.
They helped us bring down the German regime, and for that, we have to at least be grateful. They absolutely did some deplorable things, but let's not act like the US has never done anything bad...
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