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re: Pfizer CEO: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any

Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Your original argument was that there was no way to tell how many had asymptomatic covid


Correct. Because people aren't getting tested.

And his little clinic isn't indicative of the nation. Don't forget the most important part of the conversation, slick.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1712 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Well, you have no idea how primary care works. If you have a PCP, they will want bloodwork before you come to the appointment. And most people come two times a year. I don't know what to tell you.


Where do you live? I've never heard of a young person getting a complete set of labs every 6 months for no reason.

If anyone is falling for that, it's some bull made up by PCP's to get their clueless patients in more frequently. Gotta bill those hours.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Yeah, well most people dont' go to your outpatient clinic.



Eh, it's a pretty representative sample of the population at large. I feel pretty comfortable extrapolating from this patient population. But as far as I'm aware, all the primary care physicians associated with this medical center do it the same way.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Eh, it's a pretty representative sample of the population at large


A clinic?

Or an actual family practice. You know, where most of us actually go.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24759 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:34 pm to
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Eh, it's a pretty representative sample of the population at large.


Yeah, I don't know about that Doogie.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58672 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Well, you have no idea how primary care works. If you have a PCP, they will want bloodwork before you come to the appointment. And most people come two times a year. I don't know what to tell you.

What?!?!?!?!?
Once a year, max

My dr told me as long as my weight stays the same and I don’t feel weird, blood work every other year and I’m over 40
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Where do you live? I've never heard of a young person getting a complete set of labs every 6 months for no reason.



Large east coast city. The attendings want follow-ups every 6 months, though I can't say how often the younger population subset actually follows up.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:38 pm to
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A clinic?

Or an actual family practice. You know, where most of us actually go.



I mean, people use it as both because finding a PCP is apparently difficult in this area. It's a clinic associated with a teaching hospital.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:41 pm to
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I mean, people use it as both because finding a PCP is apparently difficult in this area.


I get it, we have them here. Most people going to a the clinic are sick or have a reason.

Most people aren't using your clinic though.

Again, you can end this immediately by providing numbers to back up your theory that the claim of asymptomatic infection is overstated.

That's all you need. I will be glad to apologize if you are right, and you win..

But youre shooting from the hip, and you don't know. You're saying what you want to be true.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:47 pm
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1336 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:42 pm to
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You think MDs and RNs got the govt cheese?


Whoa there. I NEVER said anything about Nurses. Nurses are unimportant. Of course I didn't deem them unimportant but the medical system did when they fired all the unvaccinated ones.

The doctors that own the practices surely got the govt cheese. The doctors in the hospitals who play a huge role in putting people on vents, I'm sure got plenty of bonuses as well. There are plenty who are just regular covid cultists who would rather people die than they do anything other than follow the exact guideline which was allowing people to die untreated.

I really can't go line by line for each doctor. But if they had started treatments at onset, many many MOST people would have been saved. But then the govt wouldn't have had their pandemic.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1712 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:43 pm to
This is because PCP's (other than pediatricians) are becoming obsolete. In BR, we have walk-in clinics on nearly every corner, and I don't need a referral to go to a specialist.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24759 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:43 pm to
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Nurses are unimportant.


. Shots fired.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85392 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:47 pm to
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But youre shooting from the hip, and you don't know. You're saying what you want to be true.


what, exactly, do you think you are doing?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:48 pm to
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what, exactly, do you think you are doing?


Asking him for actual statistics since he made the claim to begin with.

I haven't made such a claim. Is it your opinion that those asking for evidence need to be the ones that provide it? That's dumb.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22114 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:49 pm to
Roger has no numbers to back up his feelings. Numbers are unnecessary unless you speak well of the vaccine. Just believe Roger's numbers, because they come from his feelings.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:49 pm to
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Again, you can end this immediately by providing numbers to back up your theory that the claim of asymptomatic infection is overstated.



Well I can only speak from experience on this, and I'd argue that the people who are most likely to suggest they had an exposure but were asymptomatic are the younger population subset. Of that population, of the people who insisted on getting the antibody tests, they generally didn't have antibodies, specifically nucleocapsid antibodies. I just don't think it is as widespread as people claim, because the distribution of this virus has not been even, and two, there are barely any pathognomonic signs other than anosmia. The wide variety of presentations has made it so that people think they were infected when they weren't. It would be much different if there were some other physical sign which could serve as confirmation, but we don't have that with this virus.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22114 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Asking him for actual statistics since he made the claim to begin with.

I haven't made such a claim. Is it your opinion that those asking for evidence need to be the ones that provide it? That's dumb


I posted a study multiple times that showed the vaccines reduced transmission. You responded with "lol those numbers aren't true anymore." You're a clown.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Roger has no numbers to back up his feelings


Because I haven't made a claim, like the clinic intern.

its impossible for him to know the answer, but he made a definitive statement. If that's how you work, you better pray for a big inheritance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297054 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:51 pm to
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You responded with "lol those numbers aren't true anymore." You're a clown.


link? Clown.

Show me a link.

Youre confusing posters, and calling other people clown.

Covidians.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85392 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Because I haven't made a claim, like the clinic intern.


uh

quote:

I think the number of asymptomatic people carrying Covid is vastly underestimated


Easily.


and FWIW here is crazy's reply, which is less of a definitive claim than yours

quote:

I don't think it is underestimated. I think people want it to be underestimated, but I've seen no evidence for that.
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