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re: Pfizer Advertisement: Kids will become superheroes if they get the Covid vaccine

Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:49 pm to
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ive got 147 from quick googling around.


Well Shapiro said it on his show today and I found the doctor that said it where back in March he was saying it’s effectively 0 healthy kids have died from Covid. Sorry, I’ve got bigger questions about this disease before I’d give a 6 year old this, specifically the heart inflammation. Kids are more likely to be killed by lightning at this point than Covid. But yeah, had to still dig for this: Dr Marty Makary

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A team of Johns Hopkins researchers recently reported that when studying a group of about 48,000 children, they found zero COVID deaths among healthy kids, but the Centers for Disease Control doesn’t care.

Dr. Marty Makary is a medical expert and professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health, and Carey Business School. His research team “worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020.”

After studying comprehensive data on thousands of children, the team “found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.” Rather than acknowledge this scientific reality, Makary says the CDC continues to use “flimsy evidence” to push the COVID vaccine upon children.

As Makary noted in the Wall Street Journal on Monday, the implications of his team’s research are huge. “[If our research] holds, it has significant implications for healthy kids and whether they need two vaccine doses,” Makary says. After all, “The National Education Association has been debating whether to urge schools to require vaccination before returning to school in person. How can they or anyone debate the issue without the right data?”

Makary’s question is obvious, but no less timely. Makary says inflated COVID death counts continue to be corrected and “revised downward.”

But rather than combat institutional distrust with scientific data and discussion, Makary says the CDC is avoiding transparency and rigorous inquiry. He slammed the agency on Monday, saying it “overcounts Covid hospitalizations and deaths and won’t consider if one shot is sufficient.” According to Makary, this problem is systemic.

Makary says “a tremendous number of government and private policies” regarding the vaccination of children are dependent upon one questionable data point. The CDC claims 335 children under the age of 18 have died with a COVID diagnosis in their record. However, Makary reports that, “the CDC, which has 21,000 employees, hasn’t researched each death to find out whether Covid caused it or if it involved a pre-existing medical condition.”

“Without these data, the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices decided in May that the benefits of two-dose vaccination outweigh the risks for all kids 12 to 15,” Makary notes. “I’ve written hundreds of peer-reviewed medical studies, and I can think of no journal editor who would accept the claim that 335 deaths resulted from a virus without data to indicate if the virus was incidental or causal, and without an analysis of relevant risk factors such as obesity.”

According to Makary, the CDC defies medical research norms, by propagating a “flimsy” claim without sufficient research or transparency. And this isn’t an isolated incident. Makary illustrates that it’s part of a pattern.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38438 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:52 pm to
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Clown world.


And those defending this shite is the posse.

Speak English.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23159 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:52 pm to
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Wait do vaccines completely stop the spread or do people get mild infections? Seems like I can get natural immunity even if vaccinated, but reduce my risk of hospitalization by doing so. So Ill be super immune and so will my wife and child. Awesome.


Or you can just get the vaccine yourself and let your kids get it naturally and receive the exact same result but whatever.

Let me clear, I am not trying to convince you to not vaccinate your kid. Chances are extremely high everything will be fine. I just get extremely aggravated when people try to say it is a necessity that it happens.

In NO, a 12 yr old needs to be vaccinated to eat at Applebees. Soon in SF, a FIVE YEAR OLD will need to be vaccinated to eat inside at Wendy’s. That is INSANITY!
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:57 pm to
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is reason to toss a few molotovs at the Ochsner van parked ousside their school.


This is what I was referring to. My wife will also be out for blood.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:03 pm to
Not going to post this video due to it being permaban worthy since it shows a woman’s boob, but just saw another diamond on Twitter in Australia. A woman pulls over on the side of the road going into the woods to privately breastfeed her newborn baby, and then these two Gestapo pigs violently interrupted this stripping the baby as hard as they could from the mother as the baby was drinking it’s mother’s milk straight from her breast and then arrest the mother for violating the lockdowns.

It’s really the child abuse above all else that is driving me insane. If we accept this employment mandate and surrender, it’s all over.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:09 pm to
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Scheduling appointments for my 7 and 9 year olds right now. Not joking either.


Sorry your kids are fat, or have genetic issues/just generally unhealthy. If it's just that they're fat, you should feed them better.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:11 pm to
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Sorry your kids are fat, or have genetic issues/just generally unhealthy. If it's just that they're fat, you should feed them better.


I’m not going to tell people how to raise their kids unless it’s clear child abuse, like that thread I posted earlier this week where this mother has not allowed her 9 year old daughter to even go outside in 19 months. I disagree with that poster, but they’re not my kids and he should raise them as he wishes save for obvious abuse.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:21 pm to
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I’m not going to tell people how to raise their kids unless it’s clear child abuse, like that thread I posted earlier this week where this mother has not allowed her 9 year old daughter to even go outside in 19 months. I disagree with that poster, but they’re not my kids and he should raise them as he wishes save for obvious abuse.


Agreed, well other than you should feed your kids better if they are fat. Pointing out that it's pointless to vaccinate children is not telling someone how to raise their kids though. It's just good information and a good conclusion to draw from all of the available data. It is clear that some people do not know how to read data and make logical decisions based on the data. I'm just here to help people make the best decision for their kids and themselves. If someone decides to still vaccinate their kids, so be it.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:27 pm to
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Well Shapiro said it on his show today and I found the doctor that said it where back in March he was saying it’s effectively 0 healthy kids have died from Covid.


Do you know how to google?

I found a Nature article in 30 seconds looking at UK that states similar death totals as you stated along with noting some preexisting conditions made death more unlikely. British press was all over it too.

Which, Im not debating.

Im debating your claim the vaccine is equally or more dangerous than that. Because if 100 kids have died from the vaccine that fricker would have been pulled.

Which, uh
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:36 pm to
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Im debating your claim the vaccine is equally or more dangerous than that. Because if 100 kids have died from the vaccine that fricker would have been pulled


I’m saying the death stats are so low that they’re at least comparable to complications from the vaccine. Seen a few kids where it’s resulted in some sort of paralysis. I’m not going to tell people what to do, but I personally wouldn’t get my kids vaccinated. I’m a proponent for the vaccine if you’re over 30 and haven’t had Covid, but if you’ve had Covid or are under 30 then I personally wouldn’t have gotten the vaccine.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:29 pm to
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I’m saying the death stats are so low that they’re at least comparable to complications from the vaccine


Ok, so then we get to do a benefit/benefit analysis. I get to assume zero risk if you are too.

We know the vaccine reduces the risk of death or serious illness, which would reduce from the already very low baseline. So it's better than getting a natural infection. If this intervention was costly to the individual, well I get it not being worth the risk mitigation. Since it isn't though...

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Seen a few kids where it’s resulted in some sort of paralysis.


Oh well if you heard about the thing, guess it must be true.

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I’m a proponent for the vaccine if you’re over 30 and haven’t had Covid, but if you’ve had Covid or are under 30 then I personally wouldn’t have gotten the vaccine.




I would understand this perspective more if you had a) anything but anecdotes to tell me about the vaccine risk and b) if it cost you $$ to get or you can't miss work for the one day you'll feel bad after.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:37 pm to
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Oh well if you heard about the thing, guess it must be true.


I didn’t hear about it. I saw it. I’ve seen crying mothers with their 12 year olds beside them who could no longer walk.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:49 pm to
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I didn’t hear about it. I saw it. I’ve seen crying mothers with their 12 year olds beside them who could no longer walk


Seen or heard, it's still an anecdote and this discussion is concerning risk on the large scale. I suspect you keep making these emotional appeals because you don't have the data to back up the risk you ascribe to the vaccines.

Hell, if such data existed, it would be plastered all over this board.

Posted by CHSTigersFan
Charleston, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2005
2738 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:54 pm to
OMFG!!!!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 7:05 pm to
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Seen or heard, it's still an anecdote and this discussion is concerning risk on the large scale.


But the number is small enough for the anecdote to be relevant. If one kid has died from the vaccine and the number of healthy kids that have died from Covid is as few as 10 kids, then that’s 10%. Then let’s get into the heart inflammation and the paralysis. Now if my kid had a major preexisting condition where Covid could kill them, then I’d get them vaccinated. But it doesn’t seem to be worth it to me to risk a healthy kid having an adverse reaction to the vaccine. Yes these are anecdotes, but the other possibility is an anecdote itself.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 7:08 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 7:19 pm to
And by the way Duke, here’s another reason you should be very apprehensive on getting your kids a Covid vaccine: 2 children in Texas were given adult COVID-19 vaccines 3 times stronger than what they should have been given

Seems to me if you have a healthy kid, the risks of getting vaccinated well outweigh the risks of simply getting Covid from multiple fronts.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7253 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:59 am to
They’re the new Joe Camel ad firm.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:19 am to
The simple fact that they say the kids volunteered to take the vaccine should piss everyone off.

The kids had no say in it, the parents did this. And they are sick in the head.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9015 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 6:24 am to
Is the narrator that kid in the wheelchair from the Shriner's commercial soliciting money donations and promising to send you a teddy bear blanket in return?
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