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re: Personal Freedoms, Steel Toe Boots, Hard Hats, FR and Tying Off

Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:04 pm to
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But, explain why

Yeah, fall protection while working at heights is the same as a cloth mask. You're not edgy...you're sad, and this was a shite comparison.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Not remotely the same. OHSA and insurance companies dictate PPE.



Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15417 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:07 pm to
I am shocked too that you have a job
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:07 pm to
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Not remotely the same. OHSA and insurance companies dictate PPE.


That's true.

OSHA is also a part of the govt. Should they be allowed to legally compel you to wear PPE?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:09 pm to
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OSHA is also a part of the govt. Should they be allowed to legally compel you to wear PPE?



But I just do what I'm told...

ETA: Plus, they buy it so why do I care...
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10528 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:11 pm to
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So, defend your position. Should be easy.


It is easy.

I get paid good to wear PPE on the jobsite. The reality is a hard hat won't do shite if something falls 100 ft on top of my head including a bolt.

If I choose not to wear PPE, I lose out on a good salary.

I don't get paid to weed eat but I wear my safety glasses doing it because it protects my eyes.

A mask doesn't protect me or you from a virus. I rather build my immune system and it's rock solid. Covid-19 doesn't stand a chance. So no, I'm not wearing a stupid mask. If it makes you feel better, wear one or stay home. I dgaf.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:13 pm to


quote:

I get paid good to wear PPE on the jobsite. The reality is a hard hat won't do shite if something falls 100 ft on top of my head including a bolt.

If I choose not to wear PPE, I lose out on a good salary.


In short, you do as told for money. And because you're told to.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61825 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:16 pm to
You are getting worse and worse. It’s kind of sad
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22576 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:17 pm to
Congrats on 45k
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:19 pm to

I wish I made 45K
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Tying Off

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89875 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:23 pm to
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If any workplace told me I had to comply with any of that crap I would tell them to take this job and shove it. But that's just me. My body, my choice.

Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10528 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:25 pm to
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In short, you do as told for money. And because you're told to.

I do as I'm told because it's my livelihood you moron. A mask is not.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:36 pm to
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I do as I'm told because it's my livelihood


My question is, should the gov't be able to legally compel you to wear PPE?

Right now the govt can come into your workplace and fine you personally for not complying with all sorts of federal safety practices. Do you agree with that?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:37 pm to
The PPE you wear at a plant are to protect you. Wearing a mask is supposed to protect those around you. That's a big fat fail right off the bat.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4613 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:39 pm to
That's largely to prevent lawsuits against the employer. Is that also my government's motivation?
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:41 pm to
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I do as I'm told because it's my livelihood you moron. A mask is not.





Ok... so, if you're livlihood is in a 110K per year cubicle, what's your play?
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10528 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:48 pm to
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Ok... so, if you're livlihood is in a 110K per year cubicle, what's your play?

I'll wear a fricking paperbag on my head if my job asks me to. I can either comply or be a BLM protestor.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71862 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:54 pm to
The Occupational Safety & Health Act of 1970 established the authority for mandating and enforcing workplace safety protocols.

Each state has differing laws as it pertains to the powers of state and local governments, the additional powers in states of disaster and emergency, etc. It's likely that many localities and states are enforcing rules that they do not have the power to enforce.

Any similarities between your example and the various mask mandates would be coincidental at best in almost all cases aside from any instance where a state legislature actually voted on an expansion of governor powers or local executive powers.

Your take is bad.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:55 pm to

I applaud you for being the only person on the OT who would admit it.
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