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re: Per request: cycling deaths are on the rise in the US

Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:46 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:46 am to
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Just pointing out that in Colorado, cyclists can use shoulders for traveling. Where applicable.




And shoulders are not part of the road. Thanks.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:47 am to
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This is such a laughably bad take it doesn't warrant a real response.


Why? It's analogous to your "cyclists need to be regulated" take. If cyclists/walkers want to see a bike lane/sidewalk installed that isn't currently there, let them fund it themselves through a bike/walker tax because gas taxes are only for roads
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:47 am to
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And?

Are you retarded?

One poster said it's crazy to have bikes on the road with cars when the numbers show that it's more crazy to have cars on the road with trucks.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am to
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Why? It's analogous to your "cyclists need to be regulated" take. If cyclists/walkers want to see a bike lane/sidewalk installed that isn't currently there, let them fund it themselves through a bike/walker tax because gas taxes are only for roads"




If we're equating cyclists to walkers now, you need to be out of the road. Can't have it both ways there. Are we sharing the road with you or are we not?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am to
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One poster said it's crazy to have bikes on the road with cars when the numbers show that it's more crazy to have cars on the road with trucks.


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Are you retarded?

Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am to

Cherry pick a piece of a comment that you think makes your point. You lose.Thanks
Posted by squid_hunt
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am to
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I don’t remember requesting more cyclists being dead.

That was me. Guess they finally read my letter.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am to
Read back on that chain of comments. I'm not going to waste time catching you up on the scenario he posted.
Posted by Raz4back
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:48 am to
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Do you stop at stop signs?


Depending on the state, stop signs are treated as yield signs for cyclists and stoplights are treated as stop signs.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:49 am to
Protected bike lanes aren't part of the road, are they? You just said shoulders aren't because they aren't a travel lane. Why would a bike lane be?
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:49 am to
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I do not have time in the day to be on a bike for 4-5 hours a day
Yep. Everybody that isn't you is crazy.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:50 am to
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Cherry pick a piece of a comment that you think makes your point. You lose.Thanks


I've lost nothing. You have provided zero laws that allow cyclists on highways or interstates. You've at best showed a law that allows travel adjacent.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:50 am to
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Protected bike lanes aren't part of the road, are they?


They are actually.
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You just said shoulders aren't because they aren't a travel lane. Why would a bike lane be?


Because it's designed that way. I get yall aren't engineers, but this is basic stuff.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:50 am to
I like riding my bike as much as the next, but i was going down my street and two guys on bikes were coming towards me and instead of both of them getting over to their side they tried to just split me. I was singling to the one guy to just move over to the other side of the street and ill stay in my lane he just looked at me like a fricking tool and waved. You frickers need to follow the traffic rules too.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:55 am to
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They are actually


Excellent, then the taxes I pay already cover installing bike lanes since they're part of the road.

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I get yall aren't engineers, but this is basic stuff.


Oh?
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:56 am to
Ok, here you go. Some light reading re: the LAW in Colorado. This refers to cyclists, among other human powered vehicles while riding on streets, highways and interstates.
LINK
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:57 am to
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Excellent, then the taxes I pay already cover installing bike lanes since they're part of the road.



So taxes are never introduced to pay for certain things based on the end users?

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Oh?


Well that just makes your takes in this thread more disappointing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:58 am to
That link won't load for me. Maybe just quote whatever is relevant.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:03 am to
Well dammit. Let me try another.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:04 am to
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So taxes are never introduced to pay for certain things based on the end users?



No one said they never were. But I already pay taxes for roads. When they repave/realign a road to add in a needed turn lane, for example, we don't have a "people who will be using this turn lane" tax. Same way we wouldn't have a bike lane tax. It's infrastructure that falls under the purview of whoever is maintaining that road, be that state or local entities.

Not only that, there's a pretty good argument that a protected bike lane would reduce congestion by getting cyclists out of the travel lane that vehicles use. Why don't YOU pay a convenience tax since you'll have less cyclist related slowdowns?
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