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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish

Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:41 pm to
We tremble at the searing logic of your fiery intellect.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48853 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 5:06 pm to
Pretty sure this is the column to column splice detail.



Sheet S3.14
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 5:22 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Go frick yourself retard.

What rapier wit!

Should I do that in Seattle or New Orleans?

PROTIP: They're not the same city.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2988 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 6:11 pm to
Guess I'm not following what you're getting at. Yeah the columns have spices, but that doesn't means they're weak, and that elevator shaft steel is braced up like a MF'r... Sized properly, don't know, but structurally, it looks OK to me. Problem IMO is, those deck panels with no intermediate steel, were underdesigned not only for the gravity loads but lateral loads as well. The deck is supposed to create a diaphragm that transfers lateral loads from the unbraced column lines to the braced elevator shafts, which I doubt a panel size that big could do (it would possibly buckle the deck panel).
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 6:26 pm to
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Well the crane is shorter than it was before so let’s celebrate that as a success!


Yeah that one crane looks even more dangerous than it did before.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30800 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 6:56 pm to
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Should I do that in Seattle or New Orleans?



Do it wherever you want dipshit.

Made a mistake and took it down and admitted it within an hour.

So stfu bitch
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:14 pm to
Settle down, Francis.
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
1926 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
I have a question about the laying of the pans.The section that fell had pans running in an east west direction, whereas the section south of them had pans north/south.

Is this the way it should be?

Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
1926 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 6:29 pm to
I realize this is a stupid question, because there will always be perpendicular support.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:20 pm to
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pretty sure something landed in the street



Fwiw, nothing landed there. The hole was dug earlier in the week to access some utilities.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4486 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:23 pm to
No fall protection or even barricades? What's another lawsuit at this point?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:24 pm to
So if “everything went exactly as planned” as Latoya and the fire chief says it did, why haven’t they gotten the bodies out like they said that was the main reason for the crane implosion?

Are they just going to let those bodies decompose and let the rats eat them to the bones?

What was the point of the failed demo on Sunday?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:30 pm to
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No fall protection or even barricades? What's another lawsuit at this point?


The hole is filled in and behind barricades monitored by NOPD
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:31 pm to
I would imagine that until the overhead cranes were removed recovery teams were deemed too at risk for recovery efforts.

Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54942 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:33 pm to
What about that yellow thing poking out of the ground a few feet beyond the hole? It sure looks like something landed right there.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:34 pm to
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It sure looks like something landed right there.


Looks can be deceiving
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54942 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:36 pm to
Let me get this right, you are saying that piece of crane in the background is not sticking up out of the ground?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:38 pm to
The hole in the foreground. Geez.

Not sure if the crane is actually stuck in the ground or not.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54942 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:39 pm to
Gotcha. Yes, I do think the crane is stuck in the ground. Probably about 10 feet or so.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:42 pm to
I'm mixed on if it was just a good dent or actually penetrated the ground. Making it through the new road with packed base would certainly be impressive though.
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