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re: Parole denied for man convicted of killing sheriff's deputy in 1963

Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:47 pm to
Exactly, which is why I wrote "It's not out of the realm of possibilities that he ought to rot at Angola."
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:16 pm to
Do you believe that it’s ok to charge a 16/17 year old as an adult in some cases?

I do and it’s legal.

So if the USSC wants to retroactively make those crimes committed by someone that should have been charged as an adult free, it should be perfectly legal to retroactively charge the criminal as an adult.
Posted by Saltwatersoul04
The Island
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:21 pm to
You also wrote something about how black people were treated at the time but didn't say that it was possible the guy just snapped and decided to kill a police officer.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:22 pm to

M
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y point was that if released he really wouldn't have a shot any kind of actual life
He's already had too much life.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:40 pm to
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Do you believe that it’s ok to charge a 16/17 year old as an adult in some cases?



No case is absolute and it depends on the totality of the circumstances, the nature of the crime, his prior history, mitigating circumstances like personal background, family life, IQ level and so on.

Someone like the florida shooter in Parkland would qualify for being charged as an adult.

quote:

So if the USSC wants to retroactively make those crimes committed by someone that should have been charged as an adult free, it should be perfectly legal to retroactively charge the criminal as an adult.


That smacks of double jeopardy and that's illegal and unconstitutional.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:52 pm to
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I would agree with you if we were talking about grown arse adults with fully developed brains and minds who made rational choices with their crimes

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rational choices with their crimes

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rational

Crime is rational now?
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 7:55 pm
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:44 pm to
So it's ok to give a teen life in prison now. But a 17 year old was convicted of a crime and under the laws at the time found guilty and thirty plus years later it's ruled unconstitutional and he should be freed.

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:06 am to
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You also wrote something about how black people were treated at the time but didn't say that it was possible the guy just snapped and decided to kill a police officer.


No, I wrote it was possible that he should rot at Angola. Did you think that I was implying that there had been a miscarriage of justice, but I thought he should rot at Angola anyway? I wasn't. However, I did make the mistake of assuming that by writing my "rot at Angola" remark that a reasonable person would be able to infer that I was saying it was very possible he was guilty as charged. My mistake.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:18 am to
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So it's ok to give a teen life in prison now. But a 17 year old was convicted of a crime and under the laws at the time found guilty and thirty plus years later it's ruled unconstitutional and he should be freed.


You can still sentence a minor to life. It's life without parole that was found unconstitutional for minors.

That a-hole who shot David and Nicholas Pence on Clifford St in Metairie was only 17. No death penalty for minors, and no life w/o parole. He was sentenced to life. I think he needs to serve 40 years before his first parole hearing. I doubt he'll ever get out because the murders were so brutal and unnecessary (more unnecessary than usual, if you will), but you never know what can happen. Maybe he'll write some newspaper articles and get out like Wilbert Rideau.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:50 am to
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So, Bob Marley was wrong?


FIFY


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