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Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:48 pm to fr33manator
And if you pronounce like SWB, your list grows a few more!
Sludge
Pudge
Grudge
Judge
Sludge
Pudge
Grudge
Judge
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:49 pm to jbgleason
Memphis is mentioned in more songs in recorded music history than any other city.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:51 pm to Cycledude
It’s in Counting Crows’ “Goodnight Elizabeth.”
I’ll wait for you in Baton Rouge
Miss you down in New Orleans
I’ll wait for you while she slips in something comfortable
I’ll miss you when I’m slipping in between
A few things:
—the 2 syllables followed by 1 is more aesthetically pleasing to the ear for some reason
—but “Rouge” lends itself to being stretched naturally for longer/more notes with the right phrasing
—its French origin is kinda cool
—it’s along the Mississippi, but not New Orleans, which is in too many songs, gives you more flexibility than Memphis and its 2 syllables, sounds better that. St. Louis, and who ever wrote anything about Minneapolis?
—New Orleans music history and overall cultural uniqueness has it being a stop on most big tours. Baton Rouge being so close has got to be on the mind of a lot of songwriters, even if they don’t play there. They could have driven through to the next gig or just been aware of it because it’s so close.
So there are some reasons why it would be used more than other cities its size. Whether it is or not, I’m not sure. I’d bet it is close, but I also realize that my brain is programmed to notice it more, like I’m sure OP’s is.
I’ll wait for you in Baton Rouge
Miss you down in New Orleans
I’ll wait for you while she slips in something comfortable
I’ll miss you when I’m slipping in between
A few things:
—the 2 syllables followed by 1 is more aesthetically pleasing to the ear for some reason
—but “Rouge” lends itself to being stretched naturally for longer/more notes with the right phrasing
—its French origin is kinda cool
—it’s along the Mississippi, but not New Orleans, which is in too many songs, gives you more flexibility than Memphis and its 2 syllables, sounds better that. St. Louis, and who ever wrote anything about Minneapolis?
—New Orleans music history and overall cultural uniqueness has it being a stop on most big tours. Baton Rouge being so close has got to be on the mind of a lot of songwriters, even if they don’t play there. They could have driven through to the next gig or just been aware of it because it’s so close.
So there are some reasons why it would be used more than other cities its size. Whether it is or not, I’m not sure. I’d bet it is close, but I also realize that my brain is programmed to notice it more, like I’m sure OP’s is.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:52 pm to ItSawGood
quote:
Sludge Pudge Grudge Judge
He lives in Baton Rudge,
He eats a lotta fudge,
Yeah Gravy’s gotta grudge,
And the Honkies he will judge,
He’s got a hefty pudge,
His Veins are full of sludge,
But if you give him a nudge.
His fat arse won’t even budge!
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:53 pm to AlonsoWDC
quote:no way that's true
Memphis is mentioned in more songs in recorded music history than any other city
Google claims it's NYC
New York - 161 songs.
Los Angeles - 87 songs.
California - 68 songs.
Hollywood - 66 songs.
Miami - 46 songs.
New Orleans - 43 songs.
Brooklyn - 38 songs.
Texas - 29 songs.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:53 pm to Kafka
quote:On a Greyhound bus
Shreveport*,
*How many songs mention that city?
Lord, I'm traveling this morning
I'm goin' to Shreveport and down to New Orleans
Been travelin' these highways
Been doin' things my way
It's been making me lonesome, on'ry and mean
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:55 pm to Kafka
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:56 pm to Epaminondas
quote:OMG a Steve Young song
On a Greyhound bus
Lord, I'm traveling this morning
I'm goin' to Shreveport and down to New Orleans
Been travelin' these highways
Been doin' things my way
It's been making me lonesome, on'ry and mean
I feel so ashamed not recognizing it
Posted on 10/29/22 at 10:59 pm to AlonsoWDC
So that article was written by a Memphis PR shill?
Let me know when NO hires a firm to do one
Not knocking Memphis' musical significance but NO is going to have more
Let me know when NO hires a firm to do one
Not knocking Memphis' musical significance but NO is going to have more
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:02 pm to Kafka
I think the best place names for songs are 2-4 syllables and don’t contain “city”
No one’s writing a song about Walking in Walla Walla Washington, or Clute.
No one’s writing a song about Walking in Walla Walla Washington, or Clute.
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:06 pm to Kafka
quote:Wikipedia has hundreds of songs listed about New Orleans and that excludes repeats.
New Orleans - 43 songs
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:07 pm to fr33manator
Not being a pro songwriter, I would presume the best would be words that end with stress on the last syllable
And preferably a vowel so the singer can stretch it out*
Why "Marie" was such a popular name in songs
*That's why Italian is the language of opera -- all the words end in vowels
And preferably a vowel so the singer can stretch it out*
Why "Marie" was such a popular name in songs
*That's why Italian is the language of opera -- all the words end in vowels
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:08 pm to Jake88
quote:yeah that didn't make sense to me eitherquote:Wikipedia has hundreds of songs listed about New Orleans and that excludes repeats
New Orleans - 43 songs
Maybe it's NO in the title? Even then it sounds very low
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:11 pm to fr33manator
quote:"Folla me in the fall to Walla Walla
No one’s writing a song about Walking in Walla Walla Washington
If you're ever in Walla Walla gimme a holla"
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:14 pm to Kafka
Kenny Chesney - "What I Need To Do"
Eighty-seven more miles gets me into Baton Rouge
There's a buddy of mine who says he might find some work that I can do
Eighty-seven more miles gets me into Baton Rouge
There's a buddy of mine who says he might find some work that I can do
This post was edited on 10/29/22 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:18 pm to Kafka
quote:
Not being a pro songwriter, I would presume the best would be words that end with stress on the last syllable
You’ve got a great point.
Miami, My Amy comes to mind.
And ending vowels aren’t a feature of English so it would make sense to find them in places.
Maybe that’s why there are so few beautiful German love songs. No ending vowels
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:26 pm to fr33manator
quote:It's a hard language -- even harder than English
Maybe that’s why there are so few beautiful German love songs. No ending vowels
Bacccccccccccchhhhhhhhh
Rrrrrrrrudolph
Flegendorfer
Dorfmundhoffer
Karlsbad
Even "Silent Night", often called the most beautiful song ever written, has that "Nacht" in it
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:29 pm to Kafka
That and their tendency to make these megawords with lots of hard consonants. It’s a guttural language,
Posted on 10/29/22 at 11:49 pm to Kafka
quote:
So that article was written by a Memphis PR shill?
Let me know when NO hires a firm to do one
Not knocking Memphis' musical significance but NO is going to have more
I think the point we're missing here is WHY Baton Rouge? New Orleans, Memphis, and major cities make sense. But Baton Rouge is a peculiar selection for so many songs.
I believe the answer lies in two primary reasons.
1 .Phonetically it's VERY unique for a Capital City. It has that French draw to it that can be stretched over 6 syllables.

2. It's a capital city but also quaint enough to conjure some mystique and intrigue to listeners and songwriters alike. Everyone's heard of or learned about Baton Rouge in grade school when learning the State Capitals, but not many people back then could picture the city or knew much about it.
But damned near EVERY musician travelled through Baton Rouge when coming from Houston(HWY 90) or Memphis(US 61) to New Orleans.
This post was edited on 10/29/22 at 11:50 pm
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