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re: OT Workout crew: What am I doing wrong?

Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:59 pm to
Huh pubmed studies show exactly what i said. Just because people are weak and can't follow it doesn't mean its not correct. There are strategies to make it easier including intermittent fasting.


And i understand not everyone wants to do burpees til they throw. Matter of fact nobody does, it sucks i get it. But the op asked how to not have the dad bod and be skinny fat. I wold him. Just because you dont like the answer doesn't mean its not correct.


Preaching the stupid them workouts are hard and no average joe has any business performing them will get you no where with me. I stated i wanted him to loft for about 45-50 mins 3 times a week and perform hiit for 10-15 mins after that. How is that some insane workout? So using a basic linear progression program and doing 6-10 40 yard sprints is insane? I mean i wasnt suggesting prowler suicides (although they are awesome) or even farmers walks. Just simple lift and sprint.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:00 pm to
im no expert but i believe 30g of protien is all your body can use at one sitting. I do take in protien after every workout.. as far as carb cyling goes, its alot of protein, i eat 6 meals a day.. but rotate my carbs. I have a low day, medium day, high day, low day, low day, high day, medium day... thats my 7 days.

high carb days i work out the hardest.
low days i take in 1800 cals and 45-50 carbs

medium days i take in 1900-2000 cals and 70ish carbs

high days 2300-2500 cals and 150-175 carbs

all carbs are good carbs. nothing processed... just brown rice, whole wheat, old fashion oats, etc.


google carb cycling
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:03 pm to
There's gray area anyways. The furthest I run is 5k which I'm sure some would say is long distance but I run at 6:40 min/mile for the entirety so I wouldn't exactly consider it liss in the sense most people use.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:05 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:03 pm to
quote:



While I do believe in taking a probiotic the rest of that is fu fu magic bullshite. Granted I didn't read a ton of it.

Weight loss is simple. Don't over complicate it.



I respect your opinion and the info you post.

I think the microbiome is worth looking into you. Check out the links to the articles I have posted.

It is not fu fu magic. It is cutting edge legit science and likely what contributes to the "why" in weight loss/weight gain. You seem to be very knowledgeable in the "how". I find myself agreeing with everything you post with the exception of the role of calories. Calories tell the tale and account for the thermodynamic process that occurs. It does not reveal why things happen. I want to know the "why" stripped down to its core.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

im no expert but i believe 30g of protien is all your body can use at one sitting.


Nope

LINK
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:05 pm
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

TigerBait1127


laugh all you want, but it works.. i didnt come in here to say everyone do it, or live by it... he asked, so i told him
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:06 pm to
Most, if not all, diets work if there is a calorie restriction

I was laughing at the way you worded it, not the process. How does metabolism become confused?
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

Most, if not all, diets work if there is a calorie restriction

I was laughing at the way you worded it, not the process. How does metabolism become confused


thats just what they say.. im no scientist, i dont know. I guess by having low carb days then have a high carb day before metabolism starts to slow down and jumpstarts it back again. Im not sure man, jus know it works. i eat more now than i ever have and its not so much about the number on the scale, i workout 5 days a week and losing fat, not so much lbs
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

i dont know. I guess by having low carb days then have a high carb day before metabolism starts to slow down and jumpstarts it back again


It doesn't

quote:

i eat more now than i ever have 


But you're likely eating better. More protein, less carbs. So more food, but a negative or near maintenance calorie level

quote:

, i workout 5 days a week and losing fat, not so much lbs


Congrats

Lifting tends to coincide with a very large % of muscle retention in comparison to fat loss
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:14 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:17 pm to
Ok whatever you say. You win despite tons of studies that show you are wrong. Now when you start getting into 3xs the time doing liss compared hiit the calories start swining in the favor of liss. But who wants to do something that is 3 times less efficient to accomplish the same goal?


Thats ok though i dont need fricking studies to show me i am right all i have to do is look at a marathon runner and sprinter.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:19 pm to
Yea your body doesnt just stop dogesting protein. A large meal is digested for up to 12 hours before being complete.

The 30g rule is complete broscience bs. Same with the whole you can only use 1xbw in grams of protein. Again complete bs.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:23 pm to
How many times do you think you use the word broscience in a day?
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:23 pm to
Ah yes. Change the argument. I provided specifics. 60-75 minutes at 140-150. The EPOC benefit of what? 20% if we are being generous, doesn't come close to making up the difference. I enjoyed riding my cruiser this morning. Sorry you are so dense. And so wrong.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:24 pm to
Really is it that hard to google. 5/3/1 and greyskull are the name of lifting programs. Google it. Nothing confusing about those names at all. They are programs what the frick do you want me to call them?

Fasted state is confusing? Really? Fasted means havent eaten in a while, maybe you are just dumb.

If is intermittent fasting, google it especially lean gains.

Iifym is if it fits your macros. Again the name of the website is iifym, what the frick do you want me to call it? Google please

Again Tabata is the name of a specific cardio method. Its the actually name what the frick am i supposed to call it?

Are you reall so dense you cant google? All the concepts are very very simple. Just have to do a little research for yourself.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:25 pm to
Not enough
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15839 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

A lot of people don't realize how important calf flexibility is for squats.

Consistently stretching them allowed me to start going a lot lower.


pretty good video on that. helped me out

LINK
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:29 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:28 pm to
shite you are right, i thought you said 40 min. My bad i was wrong, i apologize.

But why would you want to do something that is so much less efficient? And epoc can often times be up to 50% depending on the individual.

Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:33 pm to
Some people run, bike, whatever because that, in and of itself, is their hobby. Its not simply a means to an end.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:38 pm to
I already said that is fine. The op simple asked how to not be fat anymore. 95% if the people i see riding s bike and running long distance are not ripped at all and are skinny fat.....oh and 99% are pussies but if that is your thing go ahead and have at it.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18760 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:40 pm to
That's exactly why there are so many different workouts and exercise methods. They all revolve around moving more, and there is no magic formula. Some people can push themselves to do things at a higher intensity, while others rather ride a stationary bike while reading a book.

You look at a study for any diet or exercise plan. Most studies are fairly short term (2-3 months). If you do anything new you will see results or feel a difference, but alas are bodies are really good at adapting. This is especially true for things that make us lose weight. It all works until it doesn't. This is also why tapered diet and exercise plans have been shown to have better long term success.
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