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OT Student Loan Non-Democratic Thread

Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:52 pm
So I'm browsing the net and I come across this article:

LINK

And as an avid reader of all of the TOPS threads.....I still wonder: When was the decision to go to college changed from being a privilege, to being a right?

Attending college is a choice. Plain and simple. You CHOOSE to take on debt, to educate yourself, to get a better job, to make more money.

Am I missing something?

This pathetic view that going to school is a right and should be paid for by anyone other than yourself is a joke. I can not understand this thought process.

/endbabyrant
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:54 pm to
Because free shite for errrbody!!!!

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:54 pm to
Yeah but isn't it the government's responsibility to adequately educate it's people? Otherwise we end up with a nation of fricktards, right?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40997 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:56 pm to
Hello this thread again.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

eah but isn't it the government's responsibility to adequately educate it's people? Otherwise we end up with a nation of fricktards, right?


The government educates people for 13 years and most still come out half retarded. Another four years won't help.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Attending college is a choice. Plain and simple. You CHOOSE to take on debt, to educate yourself, to get a better job, to make more money.


Or you could just work and pay cash to go to school. La public colleges aren't that expensive. I did it.

Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24394 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
In the land of the blind a one eyed man is king.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
College became a big thing when free trade encouraged companies to offshore what used to be good jobs. Union busting also contributed to the loss of decent blue collar jobs. So college became important.

TOPS was started by a man who had the personal belief that all Louisiana students should have the opportunity to go to college, and that Louisiana's brain drain was bad for the state. Don't blame TOPS Bc the legislature is too retarded to manage it's budget, legalize pot, and amend the state constitution.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124968 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:02 pm to
Without TOPS, tuition at ULL and LSU is around $5000 a semester. Add in books which could be 200-600 ish, rent anywhere from 3-4000, food, gas, misc and you're talking $10,000 a semester. Most kids can't afford $10,000 a semester on their own unless they're selling coke or working at a strip club.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 1:03 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:02 pm to
You're on the wrong board, OP.

Republicans on this site gladly took that TOPs handout without qualms.

Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:02 pm to
Think about this for a second. Our state is having trouble paying for TOPs, which by no means covers the full cost of attendance. There is outcry on a national level about loan forgiveness. How in the hell would we ever be able to afford that on a national scale? What about all the people that paid or their debt or didn't accrue any debt to begin with? There is a problem with the cost of higher education, but forgiving loan debt does not solve the root of the problem, only a symptom of the problem.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60152 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:


This pathetic view that going to school is a right and should be paid for by anyone other than yourself is a joke.


Your parents would pay for your college if they loved you enough
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:06 pm to
Maybe I'm reading what you're saying incorrectly, but I am not advocating loan forgiveness.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:08 pm to
I said it before and I will say it again, the money we waste on foreign countries that hate us could be better served reinvesting in our own damn countrymen that want to better themselves.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:10 pm to
No way man we need to "destroy ISIS"
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:10 pm to
If your mom keeps loving me right, she'll pay for both of our loans.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46743 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:11 pm to
We really need to place an emphasis on trade and vocational schools. We are going to hit a point where no one has the skills to do this kind of work and we will be up a creek.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Yeah but isn't it the government's responsibility to adequately educate it's people? Otherwise we end up with a nation of fricktards, right


Not sure if serious.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

No way man we need to "destroy ISIS"

Frick ISIS, ISIN, Korea, Turkey, Iran and whomever else we waste billions on yearly.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

We really need to place an emphasis on trade and vocational schools. We are going to hit a point where no one has the skills to do this kind of work and we will be up a creek.
It is really sad that you can't go to a two year school and learn some basic coding, SQL and other advanced computer skills.
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