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re: OT professionals: what is the difference between Engineering and Engineering tech degree?

Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:04 am to
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:04 am to
Depends on the job, really. An engineering tech won't be able to get a typical engineering office job. But he may get a job like a field engineer, sales engineer, etc (which usually aren't "real" engineeeing positions)
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:07 am to
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2 years of college and a sizeable amount of money.


The majority of Engineering technology programs are 4 years and ABET accredited, many top engineering schools offer the program such as Purdue, Michigan Tech. GE Healthcare, and Siemens Medical, Boeing, hire a lot of their graduates, after a few years on the job base pay is in the 75K range.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50506 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:11 am to
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They don't have the math, science, and theory background. They're taught how to use the specific programs for their industry, and that's all.



I have my BSEE and was one class (pre-Calculus trig, which I took in HS) away from having an associates in Electrical Engineering Technology.

The tech courses definitely included math and theory. For example, their circuits class taught analysis by simplifying a circuit (using series/parallel branches) to one voltage source and one resistor, then expanding it back out. They gave an overview of what inductors and capacitors did, but didn't include them as the math is a bit tougher. They taught some basic transistor circuits, but you used cheat sheets that showed different possible transistor arrangements to analyze them instead of mesh/nodal analysis (which was not taught). The ELET motor/generator class wasn't drastically different than the bachelor's version.

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They're taught how to use the specific programs for their industry, and that's all.


For the associates, we didn't really learn how to use any industry-based programs. Just a little bit of C++ in one class.

Some tech guys will end up making kind of shitty money (maybe topping out in the $40k range). Entergy will hire techs for lineman positions and they do fairly well (probably start in the lower 40's). The FAA used to hire techs starting in the mid 40's, but would jump you to ~$70k after 3 or 4 years IIRC. I'd imagine plants hire plenty of techs and pay well.


As for which way to go, it entirely depends on intelligence, dedication, and time/availability. Most tech schools will have afternoon and night classes, so you can probably do it with a typical 9-5.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21844 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:13 am to
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The majority of Engineering technology programs are 4 years and ABET accredited,


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For ABET accreditation, engineering and engineering technology programs are reviewed and accredited by two separate accreditation commissions, using two separate sets of accreditation criteria: the Engineering Accreditation Commission and the Engineering Technology Accreditation Commission.


LINK
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to






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For ABET accreditation, engineering and engineering technology programs are reviewed and accredited by two separate accreditation commissions, using two separate sets of accreditation criteria: the Engineering Accreditation Commission and the Engineering Technology Accreditation Commission.


From the same link.


"Engineering and engineering technology are separate but closely related professional areas that differ in:

•Curricular Focus – Engineering programs often focus on theory and conceptual design, while engineering technology programs usually focus on application and implementation. Engineering programs typically require additional, higher-level mathematics, including multiple semesters of calculus and calculus-based theoretical science courses, while engineering technology programs typically focus on algebra, trigonometry, applied calculus, and other courses that are more practical than theoretical in nature.

•Career Paths – Graduates from engineering programs are called engineers and often pursue entry-level work involving conceptual design or research and development. Many continue on to graduate-level work in engineering. Graduates of four-year engineering technology programs are called technologists, while graduates of two-year engineering technology programs are called technicians. These professionals are most likely to enter positions in sectors such as construction, manufacturing, product design, testing, or technical services and sales. Those who pursue further study often consider engineering, facilities management, or business administration.

There is much overlap between the fields. Engineers may pursue MBAs and open their own consulting firms, while technologists may spend their entire careers in design capacities"
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26709 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:08 pm to
Do you want the next bridge you drive over to be designed and signed off on by an Engineer or a Tech? Perception is a big, big part of the value proposition.

There is overlap, and you will find both in each other's perceived wheel house. An engineering degree will get you in a better starting position, but the value of any education is what you continue to learn and develop after someone hands you a diploma. At the end of the day, though, an engineering degree will always raise more eyebrows.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63296 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:44 pm to
I can only speak for companies where I have worked, but in my experience, the work done by the two is similar, but the two jobs are basically on a different level. We deal primarily with projects and Engineering Techs do a lot of the leg work like estimating, site layout, and obtaining permits. Generally, an engineer has a few techs reporting to him/her.

An engineer is more likely to spend the day in an office while a tech is more likely to spend the day on a job site.

That said, engineers generally make quite a bit more than techs....but techs can make more if they are paid on an hourly basis and work a lot of overtime.
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:00 pm to
No need to be redundant.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 1:02 pm
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