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re: OT lawyers: is Tony Stewart going to go to jail?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:14 pm to Walt OReilly
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:14 pm to Walt OReilly
quote:whoa NASCAR is considered a sport? Are the drivers athletes too?
how big of a sport it is
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:17 pm to RedRifle
Kid is in the middle of the track where he shouldn't be. Cars are moving fast and obviously volatile. There is enough reasonable doubt there.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:18 pm to theenemy
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Civilly, you can't get past the fact that the guy left the safety of his car and stood in the middle of a race track in front of a moving race car
Those are the facts, and cannot be disputed.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:22 pm to jeff5891
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whoa NASCAR is considered a sport? Are the drivers athletes too?
Yes. You obviously have no knowledge of the exercise routine they have to go through to drive these cars for this distance staying focused all the way through to the end.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:26 pm to RedRifle
I'd be really surprised if he goes to jail, but this will cost him. The kid was wrong to do what he did, but I don't think he deserved to die for it. All Tony had to do was go lower on the track, to avoid the guy; the race was under caution, so no reason for him not to. I don't know if there are multiple videos, but in the video I saw with audio, it is obvious Tony was trying to send a message. I don't think he meant to kill the guy, but he was definitely sending a message. I have a hard time understanding how people could have watched the video that I saw, and have a little racing knowledge, and think Tony did nothing wrong.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:28 pm to EWE TIGER
He definitely accelerated. The kid was where he shouldn't of been and lawyers can use reasonable doubt to argue this in circles.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:30 pm to EWE TIGER
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it is obvious Tony was trying to send a message.
not obvious...pure speculation on your part.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:51 pm to theenemy
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not obvious...pure speculation on your part.
Please speculate as to why he gassed it as he passed the kid.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the main variable in the almost 3 collisions in the video is the (now deceased) guy leaving the wreck
he was also wearing black, at night, in a low-visibility scenario
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:23 pm to EWE TIGER
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Please speculate as to why he gassed it as he passed the kid.
Why don't you prove that he gassed it first?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:26 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
are people defending TS in this thread? 
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:28 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Why don't you prove that he gassed it first?
There is a video with audio. Unless someone doctored the video, no doubt that he gassed it when the guy was right on the side of his car.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:38 pm to EWE TIGER
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Please speculate as to why he gassed it as he passed the kid.
I guess he is the only car on the track so the sound of a vehicle "gassing it" must be from his car.
How can you be sure that the sound of the car accelerating is not from a car not seen on the video and closer to the mic?
again pure speculation on him "gassing it"
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:42 pm to theenemy
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How can you be sure that the sound of the car accelerating is not from a car not seen on the video and closer to the mic?
again pure speculation on him "gassing it"
LOL
I don't know. The fact that you see his car swerve/move quicker at the exact moment you hear the rev of the engine.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:45 pm to RedRifle
I think Stewart and the guy that he hit were both kind of coming at each other aggressively.Stewart had a car whereas the other guy had a helmet and a fire suit.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:46 pm to Salmon
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I don't know. The fact that you see his car swerve/move quicker at the exact moment you hear the rev of the engine.
bullshite.
No way you can visually see him accelerate in the limited amount of video. He didn't fire afterburners or a rocket.
You are basing that solely on sound.
and of course you would never expect a driver to swerve with a guy standing in front of his car.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:56 pm to theenemy
No matter if Stewart was pissed or even if he was trying to frick with the kid I see no way that Stewart intended to hit the guy.
For it to be Criminal doesn't there have to be intent or criminal negligence?
For it to be Criminal doesn't there have to be intent or criminal negligence?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:59 pm to Speck
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Not a lawyer, but it would seem hard to prove that it was intentional imo
This. It doesn't look so clear cut after seeing the video. I know what I think happened, which is that they both lost their temper. But there's room for reasonable doubt.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 5:02 pm to Salmon
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are people defending TS in this thread?
You're usually very reasonable. Surprised to see you taking this stance here.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 5:03 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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What if he saw you douse yourself and flicked his lit cigarette at you on purpose just to scare you?
Confucius say: Man who fly airplane upside down, have nasty crack up.
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