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re: OT Engineers- do you have a Masters Degree? Was it worth it?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:28 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:28 am to NYNolaguy1
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OT Engineers- Masters Degree, worth it?
The only correct answer is, "it depends".
It depends on what your end-game is. If you plan on working for a small engineering firm doind general civil engineering, probably not. If you plan on working for Industry, or in a specialized field of engineering, the answer is absolutely it is worth it, particularly when you are young.
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:29 am to TigerstuckinMS
As someone in the field, management likes guys with experience and no master. They can handle more responsibilities while I pay them a lower rate. That's a reality. Always invest in you. I won't get off on a tangent again. OP, yes, it is worth the effort. I found out the hard way.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:29 am to NYNolaguy1
I have a Masters, but it's my only engineering degree and I treated it as an applied physics degree. It is in EE, and I work as an ME...but yea I'm sure it has helped and will continue to help.
Staying around LSU for a couple more years was glorious, and I scored a hot Chimes waitress to move with me to Si Valley when I was done (married 15 years next month).
Staying around LSU for a couple more years was glorious, and I scored a hot Chimes waitress to move with me to Si Valley when I was done (married 15 years next month).
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:33 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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The resume will demand a higher pay grade but in reality that applicant is less qualified than someone with an undergrad and two years of experience.
This is what I was hoping to avoid as I already have 4+ years of experience, and will hopefully secure my PE by the end of the year.
Having the experience before the masters hopefully would clear that obstacle for me.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:33 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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getting a masters and stopping short of getting a Phd puts you in an awkward place. You're an inexperienced tweener. The resume will demand a higher pay grade but in reality that applicant is less qualified than someone with an undergrad and two years of experience.
This is true only for menial/entry level positions. In NO case is an employee with 5 years experience penalized for having the masters over someone who has only the BS. Actually, the employee with 3 yearts experience and the Masters is more coveted than the employee with 5 years experience, generally.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:35 am to LNCHBOX
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You're going to be trained either way at your job. I'd rather pay the undergrad only less to do the same entry level work. The likelihood that your master works will be relevant to what you're doing is fairly slim.
The guy with the masters is usually the one dooing the training. The guy without it is the one getting "trained".
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:36 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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The guy with the masters is usually the one dooing the training. The guy without it is the one getting "trained".
If you say so.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:37 am to NYNolaguy1
EE here and I will eventually get my MBA, but the only way I'd get my masters in EE is if I wanted to work in semi-conductor.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:37 am to LNCHBOX
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Meh, the work experience will be a much bigger deciding factor. Management is usually way less technical, which is kind of the opposite of a masters.
This is complete bullshite. Yes, if you are a drilling engineer or a mud engineer, a masters is not worth it.
If you want to work for NASA, Moffatt & Nichols, GE, Boeing, General Dynamics, etc.........
In general, those with Master's Degrees will progress further up the chain than those without. PERIOD.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:37 am to LNCHBOX
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If you say so.
I do.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:39 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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This is complete bullshite. Yes, if you are a drilling engineer or a mud engineer, a masters is not worth it.
If you want to work for NASA, Moffatt & Nichols, GE, Boeing, General Dynamics, etc.........
It's semi ironic that you use a limited case to acknowledge my point then use a different limited case to try to make your case for the masters.
A masters (in engineering) isn't going to make you a better manager. You seem really defensive about your decision to get the masters.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:40 am to NYNolaguy1
I have one. Not sure it is worth it. Depends on your career plans.
If you want to make $ and retire early, living the simple life....no.
If you want to work until you are 70+ and just want to climb the ladder as high as possible, yeah. It might be worth it.
If you want to make $ and retire early, living the simple life....no.
If you want to work until you are 70+ and just want to climb the ladder as high as possible, yeah. It might be worth it.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:41 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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In NO case is an employee with 5 years experience penalized for having the masters over someone who has only the BS. Actually, the employee with 3 yearts experience and the Masters is more coveted than the employee with 5 years experience, generally.
That first job is the hardest one to get. After that there's just too many variables involved to make definitive statements. A masters looks great five years in, but you're not getting a management job over an MBA all other things equal, you're not leap frogging any PhD's in R&D, and you're not supplanting a guy with 5 years of project-specific experience. This is all pertaining to my field, not engineering at large, so maybe it's different in CE.
I never said having a masters would hurt in the long run. I just personally believe the return doesn't match the investment when compared to an MBA or going all the way to a PhD.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:43 am to LNCHBOX
I do not have a master. I am an SME in my organization.
I routinely interact with Phd's and MS's on tecnical engineering matters. I am an exception in that I have a BS only.
I'm not interested in "winning" or arguing with you.
Your position is that a MS is not beneficial to get, as a yong engineer. OK, we got it. You are wrong.
I routinely interact with Phd's and MS's on tecnical engineering matters. I am an exception in that I have a BS only.
I'm not interested in "winning" or arguing with you.
Your position is that a MS is not beneficial to get, as a yong engineer. OK, we got it. You are wrong.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:44 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Your position is that a MS is not beneficial to get, as a yong engineer. OK, we got it. You are wrong.
Not my position, but cool.
Your definitive statements are factually wrong. As Drunken Tigah said, there are way too many variables to back that up,
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:46 am to LNCHBOX
Thanks for all of the responses 
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:47 am to NYNolaguy1
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Thanks for all of the responses
More importantly, what's up with the LA PE tests? You moving down here?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:47 am to LNCHBOX
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Your definitive statements are factually wrong. As Drunken Tigah said, there are way too many variables to back that up,
My initial post clearly states, "It depends".
Mud Engineers do not generally benefit, corporate/research engineers do.
I am not being sucked in to ameaningless debate by you.
To the OP. If the timing is rigth, get the Masters. Your 40 year work career will be there when you get out.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:49 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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My initial post clearly states, "It depends".
Just like mine said that I'd consider getting one.
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I am not being sucked in to ameaningless debate by you.
You're the guy making unprovable definitive statements.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:53 am to LNCHBOX
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More importantly, what's up with the LA PE tests? You moving down here?
It was a combination of things actually. My friend's bachelor party is that Saturday night in New Orleans, and it was a PITA to transfer my EI stuff up to NY only to take the test that Friday and fly down to LA the next day for the party. Plus it doesnt hurt to have a LA PE in the event I get an offer I cant refuse.
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