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re: Optometry: LA HB 1065/SB 568: What if your Louisiana Eye Surgeon is NOT an MD?

Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:31 pm to
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Sorry...I'm with the optoms here. All of this hooting and hollering b.s. Is about money. Now more people who previously couldn't have even considered laser surgery will have an option. On the other hand, people who believe all of the b.s. The optho's are spewing certainly retain the right to pay their optho's 5 times what an optoms would charge in order to feel better about it. Thus, everybody is happy. (Except the greedy optho's who want their "monopoly" and ability to price gouge.
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it's 'ophthal' not 'opthal' genius
does your mom know you up this late?

This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Blind Eye
Zachary, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
112 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:40 pm to
You and I both know that I stand to benefit from this bill more than any optometrist in the state because of my unique partnership. I assure you that for me, it is NOT about the money. It is certainly about patient access. It matters not to my practices vitality who does these procedures. I will now not have to make a extra referral for a YAG capsulotomy, and they won't have to wait on B. This is what this bill was about for me. Even though we can agree to disagree on this, you and SN will still get my LASIK patients because y'all really kick arse at it.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 6:59 am
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
185 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:42 pm to
What a load of crap
Posted by WaveForLSU
Member since Oct 2008
5537 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:42 pm to
Bad grammar makes me take your angry post less seriously...
Posted by Blind Eye
Zachary, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
112 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:43 pm to
mom know your up this late?


It's you're and not your. Does your mom know that you are up this late, Genius?
Posted by Blind Eye
Zachary, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
112 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:47 pm to
What a load of crap

You may be the most bitter person that has posted in this thread. I really don't give a damn what you think.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:51 pm to
I wonder what the 25 Senators got out of this...
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
185 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:57 pm to
Well the feeling is mutual. And I'm just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13157 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:00 am to
I am disappointed with the outcome here. The legislature was misinformed and so will be the ignorant public. I am personal friends with a few ophthalmologists, and I know exactly where I am going for my eye care when I might need it. If they refer me to an optometrist for whatever reason, I trust that referral. But the MD is without question the provider of choice.
Posted by Blind Eye
Zachary, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
112 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:00 am to
does your mom know you up this late?

Still wrong, Genius

After 2 edits....correct
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 12:09 am
Posted by Blind Eye
Zachary, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2012
112 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:04 am to
No, you're (sjamarkus
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re: Optometry: LA HB 1065/SB 568: What if your Louisiana Eye Surgeon isn't an MD? (Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:57 pm to Blind Eye)
Well the feeling is mutual. And I'm just the tip of the iceberg.


No, you're (see what I did there) the tip and the base....and it ain't an iceberg that I'm talking about.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14945 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:06 am to
quote:

You and I both know that I stand to benefit from this bill more than any optometrist in the state because of my unique partnership. I assure you that for me, it is NOT about the money. It is certainly about patient access. It matters not to my practices vitality who does these procedures. I will now not have to make a extra referral for a YAG capsulotomy, and they won't have to wait on B. This is what this bill was about for me. Even though we can agree to disagree on this, you and SN will still get my LASIK patients because y'all really kick arse at it.


No one has answered my question about how and where the optoms are going to be trained in these procedures?


eta: And for the love of God, learn how to quote already. If you can't learn that I certainly don't want you pointing a fricking laser anywhere near my eye.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 6:59 am
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
185 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:18 am to
yeah that's a fine description of me....but I know exactly who you are:)
Posted by irnfan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1442 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:31 am to
quote:

While they were voting, the Legislature should've just included themselves in the law as laser surgeons too.


Actually, that's not so far off from what just happened. Most current legislators hold advanced degrees. The majority are lawyers, but even with their JD's they have just as much right to call themselves doctors as PhD's, optometrists, chiropractors, etc. What does it matter if it's a doctor of law? All that matters is that they're a doctor, right??????

It's a pathetic argument to claim, "Well, we're doctors too!!!" Really? So the fact that when you introduce yourself as Dr. SoAndSo, the majority of patients will be misled to assume that that your years of training and broad base of medical knowledge are the same as almost every other "Doctor" that's taken care of them is their fault? The technical argument trumps the patient's trust and expectations? Pathetic.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21957 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:37 am to
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No one has answered my question about how and where the optoms are going to be trained in these procedures?


Dew, no one answered because no one knows yet. The state board of optometry gets to decide how much training will be required to become qualified to do these procedures.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60243 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:28 am to
Freedom wins.

That leads me to a question though. Are the ophthas going to try and dip into the optoms' current scope of work in retaliation? Freedom tends to have a heavy cost when those who yield it are bitter.

This may end up being a double edged sword in the long run.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4890 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:37 am to
I like a little competition. If the Optometry guys are not good, don't go.

But as long as the Opthomology guys have a monopoly, they can charge a lot, make big bucks, and act all that.

Let the marketplace figure it out.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30957 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:57 am to
I have a feeling it will be mutually beneficial just as our relationship with NP's has become. Very few practice independently and those that do generally suck arse and it doesn't take long for the public to figure out how useless they are and ultimately more expensive. I would lose a few simple visits to them, but truthfully, I treated the vast majority of those over the phone. Even those choose to see me know after having more complex issues be missed or more serious illness be written off as something simple. Like one said,"You can have 6 visits there and maybe get fixed or referred or I can pay once here and get fixed." I've since added NP's to my practice and trained them myself. We now have a mutually beneficial relationship that is better for us and the patients.
Posted by oilmanNO
Member since Oct 2009
2874 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:58 am to
You really have no clue what you are talking about
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
185 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 8:04 am to
Well you can't legislate respect
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