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re: One "normal" thing you'll never allow your kids to do. Defend your position.

Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Text, email for variable schedules. For the sports with daily practice (wrestling/jujitsu) they just tell them and expect them to remember if something changes. Wild I know.


umm do you have a kid in HS team sports? because they arent communicating with the parents. its simply a team groupme or teamsnap or wtf ever and they communicate through that to the players themselves

sure they will sometimes have a groupme for the parents of the younger kids so they can put out the schedule etc but for the most part they want to communicate once through the app directly to the player and the player is responsible for communicating to the parent
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:19 pm to
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How is Snapchat not the least bad of the 3?


have you ever used snap?

its much harder to monitor for 1, second plenty of bullshite is sent and then disappears.

just trust me that its the hardest to monitor and the most destructive.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:23 pm to
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its called communication and discussing topics


at the end of the day, this is what is most important

you can have all the rules and restrictions you want, but if your kids won't communicate with you or trust that they can come to you, there will almost assuredly be bad outcomes

your kids need to know that they can come to you when they make a mistake or see something that they don't understand and you won't freak out of them

a lot the response in this thread make me think that the response to their kids coming to them with an issue would be to just ban things
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Who are you to say what is or is no real job or what I know…



umm making 14 an hour at 27 is not a real job...stfu

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I have friends that are in their young 20s. I have friends that are in their 30s and have kids. I have relatives that have children of all ages so I think I can speak on this topic as much as anybody


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as much as anybody who doesn’t themselves have kids


you are right you can speak to it as much as those who dont have kids which is to say not fricking much because you dont know shite

and i would be alot more likely to listen to someone that was 27 and a doctor with no kids or 27 finance bro with no kids but is banging down 2million a year

rather than someone who said he lives with his gf(not that she lives with him) is 27...brags about having a 3.2 in community college and brags about being gifted in fricking middle school and literally blames GOP podcast for his failures in life

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all I’m saying is how I plan to raise my kids


cool, nobody gives a frick because you have no life experience as a parent and arent exactly the prime example of success

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you can raise your kids however you want I don’t give a shite.


i will but you told me i was doing it wrong multiple times in this thread
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:28 pm to
How do you handle the monitoring? Do the kids feel like they are being watched 24/7? If you see something that they should take down do you demand it or suggest it? I feel like I could ask a zillion questions. Maybe when you’re in it the answers become pretty intuitive.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:29 pm to
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all I’m saying is how I plan to raise my kids…


You literally have no idea what challenges you may face with your kids.

It's really hard for me to say how I'm going to handle things with my 6 year old, because I have no idea what is going to be the thing in 10 years.

I'm not worried about Tiktok or Snap or those because those are almost assuredly going to be replaced by something else.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:29 pm to
It would be so interesting if all forms of social media become uncool and low tech becomes the new “it” thing
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:32 pm to
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at the end of the day, this is what is most important

you can have all the rules and restrictions you want, but if your kids won't communicate with you or trust that they can come to you, there will almost assuredly be bad outcomes

your kids need to know that they can come to you when they make a mistake or see something that they don't understand and you won't freak out of them

a lot the response in this thread make me think that the response to their kids coming to them with an issue would be to just ban things



yep a bunch of parents who are going to get a call and be asked to come get them and would freak the frick out on them.

bunch of post make it sound like their kids are not going to trust them or communicate at all


in the end every parent has to eventually learn to trust their kid and give them some freedom

many poster on here sound like they are going to move to a ranch, home school, no internet and lock the kids away

goodluck with that


just so everyone knows...there is a middle ground and smart phones are only as good or as bad as the user

things can be monitored

you can have a smart phone and still be well grounded

you can have a smartphone and still do normal kid stuff

homework is on the internet now

in the end communication is key....the things that can and are most likely to immediately change their life and have to be discussed at length are

1) kid porn(sending and receiving pics)

2) drugs/alcohol

3) unprotected sex

4) riding in cars with other teens


talk about them, might be unconformable but explain pros and cons etc.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:33 pm to
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How do you handle the monitoring? Do the kids feel like they are being watched 24/7? If you see something that they should take down do you demand it or suggest it?


I can only speak to my 12 year old, but I mostly handle by keeping a relationship with so that she trusts me and tells me things

Simply talking with your kids, acting interested in their lives, and asking questions in a non probing way, will reveal a lot of things that might require more investigation

most kids want to talk about the things they enjoy, so listen when they talk

again, my daughter is only 12 and we are just beginning this journey into teenagedom, so all of this may be subject to change real soon

Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:33 pm to
My sons were all nerds and all played 7 years of full contact football which they enjoyed. All 3 are now well adjusted, happily married engineers. (I know, not so subtle brag). Point is, I guess, I let them be them —within limitations— and they all turned out ok. I suppose my point is that I don’t think there’s just one right way to parent.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Simply talking with your kids, acting interested in their lives, and asking questions in a non probing way, will reveal a lot of things that might require more investigation
This is encouraging. Hearing about my kid’s day is one of the best parts of my day.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:34 pm to
Snapchat is just friends sending stuff. There is no outside influence to brainwash them. So as long as their friends are normal it shouldn’t be a big deal.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:37 pm to
I called you a tech weirdo for defending it so hard. I didn’t criticise how you raise your kids.

I have bumped that up a few dollars in the 3 years since I posted my wage, luckily.

I will come back when I’m a finance bro making 2 million a year.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:37 pm to
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I implore you to read this book
Interesting read. I don't necessarily agree with all his prescriptions, but they're a good starting point for discussion. I agree with his broad thesis that, in general, parents control/supervise too much of their kids' lives in the physical world and not enough in the virtual world.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:37 pm to
A lot of us still have tiny kids and we live in the world of black and white right now, so the binary makes more sense to us. I’m sure as the kids get older, the grey area gets more and more vast. In our scope, simply saying no to a thing seems to be the logical choice. I’m open to changing my mind as time goes on, even if my concerns widely remain the same.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:38 pm to
Underage drink with their friends at my house. (I live in a major metro area in Texas)

Liability and social media these days, no way.

24 years ago, me? small town USA , everyone knew everyone, police brought you home (which you’d rather go to jail to be honest), but nothing on your record , just go see the judge (who our dad’s where friends with)
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:39 pm to
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How do you handle the monitoring? Do the kids feel like they are being watched 24/7? If you see something that they should take down do you demand it or suggest it? I feel like I could ask a zillion questions. Maybe when you’re in it the answers become pretty intuitive.


we just have the accounts set up where it alerts if they post or repost something

then we randomly ask to see the phone and check it

also we make them charge down stairs away from their room where i can walk and check if i want. its number password not face for this very reason


the other thing is on video games, they can play and talk with friends on there but no random people. we check this every once in a while but we still trust them



for internet...I set up a commercial system...i can see all devices on the network from my phone. I can set it to turn internet off to individual devices at any time and i can see all traffic on each device.

i been lucky...mainly because since they were really little we actually talked and discussed things, even uncomfortable things, so they have been great kids.

we are extremely demanding as parents. we are considered crazy because we demand 4.0 to be able to play sports and weekly church attendance(sometimes that is a Friday morning mass, but try our absolute best to get to sunday mass). some of the parents think we are nuts on that but i only do it cause all my kids tested gifted so they are capable with only a little effort.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:44 pm to
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A lot of us still have tiny kids and we live in the world of black and white right now, so the binary makes more sense to us. I’m sure as the kids get older, the grey area gets more and more vast. In our scope, simply saying no to a thing seems to be the logical choice. I’m open to changing my mind as time goes on, even if my concerns widely remain the same.


I;ve raised two myself, and one of my granddaughters has lived with me more than her parents.

The truth is kids need to be treated individually with equal expectations, but different inputs.

My first daughter was hard to handle, rebellious and pushing liimits. My current granddaughter is the opposite. She walked before she was a year old, potty trained herself, and has managed most of her own affairs her entire life. She's just a self starter and self manages correctly.

They required totally different management styles.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:57 pm to
I believe this is exactly what will happen
Posted by DivotBreath
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:00 pm to
No tattoos or she can pay for her own wedding and she is out of my Will.

I don’t have to defend my position.
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